General/Other Shazam buffs we want.

[ZigZag]

Here's what most people think Shazam needs to make him well rounded.

- A decent AA.​

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- His teleport should have quicker start up frames & not able to be interrupted.​

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- AT Needs armour. (Possibly change the MB from a Hit confirm to when activated to initiate armour).​

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I don't think this is much to make him well rounded, he's already amazing in every other field but he sucks at long range so if NRS decided his projectile would be terrible at least gives us a better way in.

If there's anything else you think he deserves post it bellow.
dicuss your thoughts on these buffs.​

 

[DuskAlloy]

I want an instant SHAZAM! shouting button assigned to the back button... what is that not what you meant?

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

You should be ashamed in yourself

 

[ZigZag]

You should be ashamed in yourself

Get out of here Black Adam!
I would defeat you again in battle if it weren't for the fact that NRS neglected the fact Shazam can't do anything with half his tools.

 

[DuskAlloy]

Get out of here Black Adam!
I would defeat you again in battle if it weren't for the fact that NRS neglected the fact Shazam can't do anything with half his tools.

Atleast they realise he needs buffs, maybe they will put in some buffs that will actually help his core gameplay in one of the next patches that will happen for each dlc character

 

[ZigZag]

Atleast they realise he needs buffs, maybe they will put in some buffs that will actually help his core gameplay in one of the next patches that will happen for each dlc character

Yeah hopefully they will, the latest buffs have improved his Up close pressure so much which is amazing, But he still is a fish out of water at full screen, I just hope something's done to further this help, I believe these are the only buffs he needs, If his teleport is good enough an amoured AT isn't even that needed.

 

[Doombawkz]

Honestly imo, you guys should be projectile immune with AT while your trait is up.
That's just me though.

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

Get out of here Black Adam!
I would defeat you again in battle if it weren't for the fact that NRS neglected the fact Shazam can't do anything with half his tools.

If I had just gotten a huge set of buffs, I wouldn't make a thread asking for more buffs.
I would take my buffs and conquer!

 

[DuskAlloy]

If I had just gotten a huge set of buffs, I wouldn't make a thread asking for more buffs.
I would take my buffs and conquer!

Shazam's new buffs arent enough to put him on S tier along side another certain character who shouts shazam lol, and didnt everyone agree that buffing lower characters until they were top was the best solution

 

[ZigZag]

If I had just gotten a huge set of buffs, I wouldn't make a thread asking for more buffs.
I would take my buffs and conquer!

The buffs we got weren't that significant, the best was our trait buff which was just stupidly slow in the first place, we don't all play broken characters.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

His teleport is definitely good enough as is. It's an amazing anti zoning tool and a great wakeup.



He could use a better AA for sure. His d2 has a decent hitbox, just maybe make it faster.

B2 needs to not whiff on crouchers. That just makes no sense.

22 is still a string that has too many holes in it. There shouldn't be a gap in between the first two hits, and you shouldn't be able to backdash/interrupt followup specials since they're all unsafe anyway.


Those are my for sure buffs. My personal want buffs:

Sweep safe on block or like -6. Wonder Woman has it and it's way more integral to his game.

Faster projectile, maybe more use for his MB projectile. This would make terrible matchups where you lose the inside game (like Grundy and Supes) a lot more manageable.

More comboability off of his standing 1. Right now his fastest punish combos are D1 xx Torpedo or 112 xx Torpedo, both of which are extremely low damage. His next fastest punisher is standing 2 which nets him relatively low damage too (maximum low 30%s for a bar) and after that he doesn't have much.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

If I had just gotten a huge set of buffs, I wouldn't make a thread asking for more buffs.
I would take my buffs and conquer!

He's still in my bottom 3 or 4 after the buffs. =[

 

[DuskAlloy]

He's still in my bottom 3 or 4 after the buffs. =[

But with my well thought out addition to his move list, he would be top 5 in hype

 

[Sutter Pain]

The buffs we got weren't that significant, the best was our trait buff which was just stupidly slow in the first place, we don't all play broken characters.

To be be fair you do play a broken Character but not the good kind of broken.

I support Shazzam buffs he is a lot of fun and if nrs continues to slowly buff him I think he will be very good for the people who have dedicated the time!!!

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

But with my well thought out addition to his move list, he would be top 5 in hype

real talk he needs to yell shazam when you land HM

that lightning is literally the perfect time....

I'm officially adding that to me "definite buffs" list

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

He's still in my bottom 3 or 4 after the buffs. =[

That has got to be an exaggeration lol. There's just no way

 

[ll Nooby ll]

He's still in my bottom 3 or 4 after the buffs. =[

Forgive me if I'm wrong. If 22 jailed wouldn't you be able to hit confirm which grab to use ate the first 2? And jail them the whole time for the free grab

 

[MrAvA]

I wish he had a better walk speed and the ability to call down lightning that tracks. I don't get how BA can call small clouds of lighting on you for no reason but hey magic is magic and only wish the good guy had some too.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Forgive me if I'm wrong. If 22 jailed wouldn't you be able to hit confirm which grab to use ate the first 2? And jail them the whole time for the free grab

Yeah you might be right.

I wish the 2nd 2 didn't jail you into standing, but you couldn't backdash it. Make it a purely high/low guess.

 

[DuskAlloy]

Yeah you might be right.

I wish the 2nd 2 didn't jail you into standing, but you couldn't backdash it. Make it a purely high/low guess.

Tbh that is the main reason im not playing as shazam right now, if his 22 were and actual 50/50 I would make captain marvel my other secondary

 

[ll Nooby ll]

Yeah you might be right.

I wish the 2nd 2 didn't jail you into standing, but you couldn't backdash it. Make it a purely high/low guess.

Sounds reasonable. Grundy kinda has this problem too against some characters, so you're not alone.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

That has got to be an exaggeration lol. There's just no way

Seriously! He's very bad considering.

I mean what advantage does he have over other grapplers?

Lobo has the same setups but way better, because his combos do full damage and end in a 50/50 throw setup where Shazam's need to lose a lot to go back to that situation. He also has better throw traps on block.

Grundy's command throws also work on knockdown/block and deal as much meterless as Shazam's do with meter.

Frost has the same command throw setup on knockdown (223 > Dash > DBF2) and she gets insane damage for it.


It isn't like his normals or zoning are any better either. His normals are all short, unsafe, or super slow. His zoning is a joke in 90% of matchups.

Low damage, bad normals, inferior mixups, bad AA, VERY meter dependent, weak damage off of fast punishers, weak zoning, etc.

All he can do is get a knockdown and keep 50/50ing them (assuming he has meter) and other characters do that way better.

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

EGP Wonder_Chef okay, I can see some of his problems now, but I really don't think that qualifies him for bottom 3 or 4 lol.

 

[DuskAlloy]

EGP Wonder_Chef okay, I can see some of his problems now, but I really don't think that qualifies him for bottom 3 or 4 lol.

You have to realise, most characters have atleast dumb shit in this game like tom brady said, but when a character in this game have average to decent options, it is going to make him bottom 5
Edit: wrote decent instead of dumb in first part

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

EGP Wonder_Chef okay, I can see some of his problems now, but I really don't think that qualifies him for bottom 3 or 4 lol.

Who would you put below him currently? my bottom 3 right now is Bane, Lex, Shazam.