Reptile Frame Data

[Somberness]

How to understand this.
Execution
1 - 11
1,2 - 10
1,2,2 - 18
1,2,2,1 - 8
1,2,4 - 18
1,2,B+1 - 20
2 - 11
2,3+4 - 22
2,F+3 - 11
2,F+3,1+2 - 34
3 - 13
3,2 - 15
3,2,1 - 18
3,2,B+4 - 26
4 - 15
D+1 - 9
D+2 - 11
D+3 - 8
D+4 - 12
B+1 - 15
B+4 - 18
F+2 - 15
F+2,B+1 - 9
F+3 - 15
F+3,1+2 - 31
Throw - 10
Force Ball - 29
Slow Force Ball (full screen) - 98
Fast Force Ball (full screen) - 69
Slide - 12
Slide (max range) - 30
Acid Hand - 27
Acid Spit - 20
Acid Spit (full screen) - 43
Elbow Dash - 6
Elbow Dash (max range) - 13
Mega Ball - 18
Slow Mega Ball (full screen) - 148
Fast Mega Ball (full screen) - 52
Slime Trail - 12
Slime Trail (max range) - 27
Reptilian Hand - 27
Acid Stream - 21
Reptilian Elbow - 6
Reptilian Elbow (max range) - 12
Tricky Lizard - 14
Tricky Lizard (full screen) - 35

Block Advantage
1 - 0
1,2 - 0
1,2,2 - -12
1,2,2,1 - -10
1,2,4 - 0
1,2,B+1 - 0
2 - 0
2,3+4 - -24
2,F+3 - -2
3 - 0
3,2 - 0
3,2,1 - 0
3,2,B+4 - -18
4 - 0
D+1 - -10
D+2 - -2
D+3 - -6
D+4 - 0
B+1 - -4
B+4 - -18
F+2 - -12
F+2,B+1 - -11
F+3 - -3
F+3,1+2 - ~+8
Force Ball - -11
Slide - -31
Acid Hand - -4
Acid Spit - -11
Elbow Dash - -15
Mega Ball - +2
Slime Trail - -30
Reptilian Hand - -4
Acid Stream - +3
Reptilian Elbow - +5
Tricky Lizard - -12

Hit Advantage
1 - 0
1,2 - +4
1,2,2 - +2
1,2,2,1 - +60, +48
1,2,4 - +3
1,2,B+1 - +3
2 - 0
2,3+4 - +24, +8
2,F+3 - +29, +27
2,F+3,1+2 - +53, +62
3 - +3
3,2 - +5
3,2,1 - +35, +39
3,2,B+4 - +10, +6
4 - +3
D+1 - -1
D+1 (vs crouch) - -3
D+2 - +32, +25
D+3 - +4
D+3 (vs crouch) - +11
D+4 - +12
D+4 (vs crouch) - +5
B+1 - +2
B+4 - +10
F+2 - +2
F+2,B+1 - +63, +39
F+3 - +29, +27
F+3,1+2 - +55, +64
Forward Throw - +7
Backward Throw - +11
Force Ball - +67, +56
Slide - -2, -6
Acid Hand - +49, +32
Acid Spit - +8
Elbow Dash - +42, +50
Mega Ball - +73, +62
Slime Trail - +27, +9
Reptilian Hand - +68, +61
Acid Stream - -6
Reptilian Elbow - +36, +40
Tricky Lizard - +77

Duration
1 - 24
1,2 - 51
1,2,2 - 90
1,2,2,1 - 102
1,2,4 - 73
1,2,B+1 - 74
2 - 33
2,3+4 - 100
2,F+3 - 61
3 - 35
3,2 - 60
3,2,1 - 78
3,2,B+4 - 109
4 - 38
D+1 - 24
D+2 - 49
D+3 - 20
D+4 - 33
B+1 - 46
B+4 - 63
F+2 - 54
F+2,B+1 - 68
F+3 - 45
Throw - 36
Force Ball - 60
Slide - 54
Acid Hand - 58
Invisibility - 28 (starts reappearing after 359 frames)
Acid Spit - 51
Elbow Dash - 16
Mega Ball - 43
Slime Trail - 54
Reptilian Hand - 58
Vanish - 28 (starts reappearing after 460 frames)
Acid Stream - 66
Reptilian Elbow - 16
Tricky Lizard - ~74

Cancel Advantage (block)
1 - +14
1,2 - +21
1,2,2 - +21
1,2,4 - +18
2 - +18
3 - +18
3,2 - +26
3,2,1 - +26
4 - +18
D+1 - -2
D+3 - +3
D+4 - +26
F+2 - +21

Cancel Advantage (hit)
1 - +20
1,2 - +22
1,2,2 - +35
1,2,4 - +16
2 - +61
3 - +16
3,2 - +27
3,2,1 - +56, +60
4 - +17
D+1 - +6
D+1 (vs crouch) - +4
D+3 - +13
D+3 (vs crouch) - +20
D+4 - +32
D+4 (vs crouch) - +25
F+2 - +35

Miscellaneous
Breaker (when grounded vs grounded opponent) - ~+4, ~+3

 

[Seapeople]

I nominate Somberness for top contributor if that's still a thing

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Great post. Quick question on the cancel advantage on block. So 122fastball is safe because its +10 on block (+21 -11= +10?) Or am I wrong here?

 

[THTB]

Somberness, this is why I love you. (No homo)

So Reptile is neutral on a ton of shit? And EX forceball is +2 on block? And EX spit is +3 on block? I have toooooons of ideas! Every EX move Reptile has is advantage on block, except for slide obviously. And -11 on block for regular spit ain't bad at all. Unfortunately, d4/321 xx acid hand is interruptable by armor. :/

This reinforces how meter dependent Reptile is. Very interesting.

Also, Rap, 122 xx EX forceball is not +10. It is +2 altogether.

 

[PimpUigi]

I'm confused. Reptile's standing 2 gets him a safejump right? Then how is it 0 frames on hit???
Oh, are we saying it only gives you a safe jump and 61 frames of advantage if we cancel into invisibility???

 

[xenogorgeous]

great job as always, man !! you deserve to be top kontributor, your frame data threads are all badassess !!

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Somberness, this is why I love you. (No homo)

So Reptile is neutral on a ton of shit? And EX forceball is +2 on block? And EX spit is +3 on block? I have toooooons of ideas! Every EX move Reptile has is advantage on block, except for slide obviously. And -11 on block for regular spit ain't bad at all. Unfortunately, d4/321 xx acid hand is interruptable by armor. :/

This reinforces how meter dependent Reptile is. Very interesting.

Also, Rap, 122 xx EX forceball is not +10. It is +2 altogether.

Yea this enforces that I have no idea what the cancel advantage on block section is about.

 

[GNG Iniquity]

F+3,1+2 - ~+8

Wow, I'll be using that a lot more now. That's a lot of advantage on block. Hell, I'm just going to incorporate that into every bnb now, that's crazy good.

 

[THTB]

Yeah, I started doing that after I read a post from Somberness about it. Too good.

 

[Somberness]

I'm confused. Reptile's standing 2 gets him a safejump right? Then how is it 0 frames on hit???
Oh, are we saying it only gives you a safe jump and 61 frames of advantage if we cancel into invisibility???

Because move properties change when they are cancelled, this includes when just completing a string. I'm not sure why the cancel advantage off 2 is so large, there is only a 31 frame gap between it and 3+4 so it's not at a range where it would be blockable sometimes.

Yea this enforces that I have no idea what the cancel advantage on block section is about.

Take the duration or execution number of a special and subtract it from the cancel advantage to figure out the advantage after, or whether the special is guaranteed or not.

Unfortunately, d4/321 xx acid hand is interruptable by armor. :/

If someone could actually hit that, I think the meter drain problem would come into play.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

So on block 122 invis is -7 and on hit 122 invis is +7?

 

[Playpal]

Somberness If we were to cancel strings into invisibility, what would the advantage be? Should we subtract cancel advantage by 28?

 

[RapZiLLa54]

I believe its -2 after 32 and -7 on 122.

 

[Playpal]

I believe its -2 after 32 and -7 on 122.

According to the math that sounds like a yes.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

It just occurred to me that 124 and d4 on hit are 1 frame away from comboing into an EX fastball

 

[Somberness]

It just occurred to me that 124 and d4 on hit are 1 frame away from comboing into an EX fastball

It won't combo since it is the end of a string and it doesn't lift the opponent.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

EX ball is 18 frames so if d4 or 124 were +18 on hit like they are on block wouldn't they link for a combo? Similar to how 32 into exball links. I was mainly stating how its a shame that they are just 1 frame away from BEING AWESOME lol

 

[M_TRICKZz]

Plz do this for Sub Pretty plz!

 

[Playpal]

Plz do this for Sub Pretty plz!

He's already done it for SZ.

EX ball is 18 frames so if d4 or 124 were +18 on hit like they are on block wouldn't they link for a combo? Similar to how 32 into exball links. I was mainly stating how its a shame that they are just 1 frame away from BEING AWESOME lol

You can't do 124 into force ball the same way JC can no longer do F32 nut punch. It is the end of the string, and unless the opponent is airborne you will not combo.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

I know..... it won't combo because its 1 frame off from linking as I pointed out twice lol

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Reptile barely has anything advantage on block? Wow...ok seriously.What makes this character good besides Elbow Dash which actually isn't even all that good?

 

[Playpal]

I know..... it won't combo because its 1 frame off from linking as I pointed out twice lol

You misunderstand, it doesn't matter if 124 was +50 on hit. Because 124 is a complete in-game string, you can't link a special and have it combo. You can do 122 force ball because 1) You're cancelling an incomplete, in-game string into a special 2) you have enough cancel advantage to do that.

If you do 124 elbow dash, you won't combo. 124 will just give a guaranteed elbow dash.

And people don't realize that you don't need frame traps to be good at rush down. Kitana, Kung lao, sonya and liu kang are examples of this.

 

[Mattman]

It just occurred to me that 124 and d4 on hit are 1 frame away from comboing into an EX fastball

The opponent can block before getting hit with the force ball because it doesnt actually link into a combo even though it may look like it should.

lol just fuckin with you

 

[Salad Petresky]

Reptile barely has anything advantage on block? Wow...ok seriously.What makes this character good besides Elbow Dash which actually isn't even all that good?

Hes good because of good players make him seem like a good character. There are many good representatives for this character, but overall...reptile can adapt pretty well to any situation. I mean his only serious match ups are mileena and sonya. I believe his game is now based upon his ex moves, I dont think any character has ex moves that are this good. I personally dont even think reptile is top 10 though

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Yea but EN moves require meter.And guess what? His elbow dash just got nerfed in terms of meter building.