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Vak Phoenix

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
Lanqu said:
My issue is that after any sub string into klone he jumps in (rare case) or backdashes (often) and I can't check him with my b2 through the klone because i need to step back a bit. But he starts spammin iceballs and builds meter. And if he does corner carry combo than its almost gg because I need to guess 2 mixups in a row.
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Yes but his corner game is universal towards every character, just jump over the clone and teleport.
 
Lanqu

Lanqu

Mortal
Vak Phoenix said:
Yes but his corner game is universal towards every character, just jump over the clone and teleport.
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Im just too salty :) I think I need to record a few matches against my local "Madzin" and analyze that shit.
Btw, nice thing is DN bf2 punishes Sub's f42 meterless
 
Awkward Sloth

Awkward Sloth

Lamest Harley, still better sloth than Jer
I'm a skeptic still y'all.

Was hoping for improvements to normals/less recovery on some things.

2 hits of armor is nice tho
 
Vak Phoenix

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
Awkward Sloth said:
I'm a skeptic still y'all.

Was hoping for improvements to normals/less recovery on some things.

2 hits of armor is nice tho
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her hitting running opponents drains their stamina! which is awesome and stamina depletes faster, the universal nerfs help her so much! plus the damage buff on fireballs, cmon
 
EdenianWarrior

EdenianWarrior

Kombatant
Awkward Sloth said:
I'm a skeptic still y'all.

Was hoping for improvements to normals/less recovery on some things.

2 hits of armor is nice tho
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If you hit a running opponents drains their stamina. Everyone getting those universal nerfs helps her ALOT. Not to mention better fireball and combo damage!! It's great.
 
Awkward Sloth

Awkward Sloth

Lamest Harley, still better sloth than Jer
Vak Phoenix said:
her hitting running opponents drains their stamina! which is awesome and stamina depletes faster, the universal nerfs help her so much! plus the damage buff on fireballs, cmon
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I know that but I can see a lotta people just throwing out ex shroud all the time when trying to open people even more than they do already.

Like I said I'm skeptical.

I lived through Injustice 1's final patch as a Harley main. Some of the things they said were improved turned out to actually be nerfs. And the character turned out to be bottom 7. The community thought the character was good and fine but as the meta developed and people learned the MU we realized we should've asked for more because she wasn't as strong as we thought.

I'm a grumpy old man though so who cares what I think.
 
Vak Phoenix

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
Awkward Sloth said:
I know that but I can see a lotta people just throwing out ex shroud all the time when trying to open people even more than they do already.

Like I said I'm skeptical.

I lived through Injustice 1's final patch as a Harley main. Some of the things they said were improved turned out to actually be nerfs. And the character turned out to be bottom 7. The community thought the character was good and fine but as the meta developed and people learned the MU we realized we should've asked for more because she wasn't as strong as we thought.

I'm a grumpy old man though so who cares what I think.
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arent u like 23?
 
RevetLeafing

RevetLeafing

Tanya, Tanqui, and Kaprisun Specialist
Lanqu said:
Vak what do you think on best variation agains GM Sub now? I see issues here - all Tanya vars except Pyro has 1 hit armor. That means she still is vulnerable to GM corner shit on the head. However even Pyro can't punish GM's corner OH behind the klone - she doesnt have suitable reversal for that now.
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Naginata and Pyro both do very well against GM
Fireballs Obliterate ice clone in sort of a 2 for 1 fashion, and her keep away game against him is sooo amazing. Also her having a 2 hit armor move will definitly help against him
 
Vak Phoenix

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
No, Grandmaster SubZero beats Pyromancer strongly. She cannot run away, her fireballs are too slow to keep up, run away fireball gets punished by slide so does the air fireball. The only option for pyromancer in this match up is to hope to get dust on and then mix him up. It is a very struggling matchup for Tanya.
 
Blonde_Huntress

Blonde_Huntress

Edenian Witch <3
Loving her Pyro buffs! I also like less recovery on teleport. It felt sluggish before.

DN seems to have taken a scaling hit though. :/ Added armor on EXbf2 is a nice addition.

Eh well, I'm just glad she got more positive than negative.
 
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Blonde_Huntress

Blonde_Huntress

Edenian Witch <3
Yeah, just off the top of my head from like 10 minutes of lab:

Mid screen combo that used to do 40% now only does 34%. I guess they figured the added armor on EXbf2 was supposed to compensate lol. :D
 
vegeta

vegeta

Saiyan Prince
I'll probably return to pyro. Need to test kobu out too. Likely gonna run just Tanya with both variants now
 
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