I've beaten Rico Suave and Insaynne, both 3-0 at WB (Rico did run it back on me 5-4) and I play Tom constantly and I agree with Tom saying it's even. This matchup comes down to who gets the lifelead first.
To be honest the only reliable source of information from the killer frost forums is me
Had no clue you would be popping into the discussion.
Yeah it is very life lead dependent for sure. Getting in on both characters can be tough.
Agreed. All of aquaman's jump in attempts are punished of reaction by MB F3 or D2. Dashing in is of course checked by slide. Daggers also control the Ground game as even a trade with FTD favors KF. Getting in on aquaman is just as tough thanks to an even superior D2 and B12. Also, because Trident Rush cannot be punished, Aquaman has an easier time maintaining any life lead.
I posted earlier in the thread quoting the KF communities reason for her winning the matchup 'she can punish FTD 6-4' and was getting notifications
Yeah I agree with you on a lot of fronts. I don't think Aqua has an easier time maintaining a life lead though, Frost is able to hold her own with a life lead in this MU. Aquaman having to get in when Frost is free to chuck daggers and build meter setting up MB f3's/etc is pretty good. Aqua definitely makes it tough on his end though too being able to stuff dash in's with D1/D2. His post slide options are also pretty good as well.
Don't worry you are the biggest up-player of the Aquaman MU since you have it at 7-3, remember? Your words not mine.
Aquaman gets more damage than Doomsday in every situation for the exact same read. Aquaman does way more chip on block than Doomsday does. Aquaman is one of the few characters besides Sinestro that can effectively keep Doomsday out when he has trait on. Dealing with Doomsday in trait isn't a problem because you can basically throw out a string into trident rush and use up all his trait time on hit or block. Aquaman can punish earth shaker if he has trait on reaction, so you can't earth shaker when he has it. You can't reverse Aquaman's wake ups in the corner because he can just water shield and full combo punish you if you try to do anything. The only advantage to this match up is that if you knock him down mid screen he has to have solid defense. Other than that I don't really see any point in this match up where Doomsday has better options than Aquaman.
oops.. I meant to make that 6-4.
I have him winning 6-4. I also clearly stated that, only a few months into 1.06, I do not want to say any mu is 7-3 or worse.
Ahh ok!
Yeah once you get in his range she starts to struggle but getting in that range is difficult and if she just holds back you're out of that range. Yes she has no punish but neither does most of the cast so whatever. Aquaman as no mix ups so Ravens wake ups being poop don't matter that much. If you corner her, again yes it's trouble for her but the issue is getting her there. It's not easy for aquaman to get where he wants to be in this match up. That's why it's difficult for him. And if Raven knocks him down its over.
Idk, I will need to play this matchup more, I feel it is 5 5 at worse for AM. Just my opinion on it.
If anyone is qualified to speak on that particular matchup, it'd be Theo
Explain "every advantage over aquaman"
Sorry, that was a bit of hyperbole. I'm sure I'll accidentally leave shit out but here we go.
So as far as Green Lantern, GL doesn't have a lot of good options to open AM up. Everyone says "Just shoot air Oa's rocket", and while that does help keep the matchup closer, if the AM is blocking, shielding, or backdashing your rockets you will do far less damage in chip or the occasional hit than he will do by blowing up your jump with a well-timed FTD or dash-up d2.
