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ShadowBeatz

Dropper of Bass and Bombs
Baton pass got banned!?
Yeah. I normally don't really have much on an opinion on banning stuff because I haven't seen it first hand, but on paper that shit just seems kinda messed up lol. Send in a wall to set up for days and then Baton Pass it all onto a powerhouse. I'm sure it can't be that simple, but yeah lol. Couldn't you Baton Pass substitutes too?
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Yeah. I normally don't really have much on an opinion on banning stuff because I haven't seen it first hand, but on paper that shit just seems kinda messed up lol. Send in a wall to set up for days and then Baton Pass it all onto a powerhouse. I'm sure it can't be that simple, but yeah lol. Couldn't you Baton Pass substitutes too?
Ya you could
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
As far as I knew it's still legal I don't think it's that broken honestly. What devastating walls can even learn baton pass? Umbreon is the tankiest thing I can think of that has it.
It's not a huge threat. If you let it get going it becomes dangerous, but yeah it's definitely mangable.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Gliscor is the best Pokemon ever. He is MVP of the night. Boding Pokemon left and right. With just Toxic. Cause EQ couldnt hit them. Thats right. Winning with Just Toxix. Hes on my main team now. Gliscor fits my style so fucking much. I love it. <3. Night.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Also, baton pass teams are hard to stop.

Logic would assume that taunting them or phazing them would be the best option...but you can't with Scolipede and espeon unless you lead with your phazer.

Scolipede will protect on the first turn to get a speed boost, even on Pokemon with taunt.

If it knows you are fishing for the taunt, it heads to espeon. If you taunted, phazed, etc it's getting bounced back.

It's tricky as hell. If you don't have a phazer out they usually go to vaporeon and go for the acid armor boosts.

By the time it gets back to espeon it starts sweeping with stored power.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Also, baton pass teams are hard to stop.

Logic would assume that taunting them or phazing them would be the best option...but you can't with Scolipede and espeon unless you lead with your phazer.

Scolipede will protect on the first turn to get a speed boost, even on Pokemon with taunt.

If it knows you are fishing for the taunt, it heads to espeon. If you taunted, phazed, etc it's getting bounced back.

It's tricky as hell. If you don't have a phazer out they usually go to vaporeon and go for the acid armor boosts.

By the time it gets back to espeon it starts sweeping with stored power.
It's really not that bad, you just need priority, which is another reason why priority has become so much more important this gen. There are few baton pass teams I have trouble with honestly. I lead rotom and volt switch him out, which usually deals enough damage for me to bring in Talonflame and finish whatever poke is out off. This usually leads to an RQ. I really don't think it's as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Phazing is the next best option if you can't handle that. I don't like taunt as a counter because almost all baton pass teams have Espeon. Also, I need to get me some eeveelutions dammit loll. There are too many that are too good that I'm missing out on. Also, the easiest way to deal with stored power sweeps is to just send in a dark type I've found. Assault Vest T-Tar is perfect for it. It will be immune to stored power and can tank anything else as long as it isn't too buffed up in Sp. Atk.

Edit: Oh bulky SD scizor is another way to just say fuck you to baton passers. SD in their faces, if they don't do something about it they will probably regret it.
 

xMWFx616x

Mortal
Gliscor is the best Pokemon ever. He is MVP of the night. Boding Pokemon left and right. With just Toxic. Cause EQ couldnt hit them. Thats right. Winning with Just Toxix. Hes on my main team now. Gliscor fits my style so fucking much. I love it. <3. Night.
In my opinion gliscor is S Tier in OU he might be the best pokemon I've ever used not in ubers and he's been good for awhile now. Toxic stall gliscor is great but I actually prefer Swords Dance,EQ, Poison Jab, Substitute with a Toxic Orb max ATK max DEF. But either way you can't go wrong and he great in doubles too.
 

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
In my opinion gliscor is S Tier in OU he might be the best pokemon I've ever used not in ubers and he's been good for awhile now. Toxic stall gliscor is great but I actually prefer Swords Dance,EQ, Poison Jab, Substitute with a Toxic Orb max ATK max DEF. But either way you can't go wrong and he great in doubles too.
Im using Toxic Stall. I love it so much.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Gliscor isn't S tier by any means, but he is definitely hella good pokemon. I use it all the time, it just has a lot of hard counters is the only thing about it that I think ruins it.