Doombawkz
Trust me, I'm a doctor
Why do b.121? With 10 frames of start-up, you might as well use standing 4 and reduce the scaling while tacking on an additional 2% to the beginning move.
Its a very loose thing too, easy to land.
Why do b.121? With 10 frames of start-up, you might as well use standing 4 and reduce the scaling while tacking on an additional 2% to the beginning move.
Cus then you can go for swag combos like B121xx PnGRCxx B1212
Sure, lots of times. A relatively easy one to start with is 1,1xx PnGxx Runxx F2, 11, b121, dbf1. To be clear, that F2 is not only plus, it's a full combo if you do it correctly.are there any times where PnGRC leaves you at plus? i cant play for a while so trying to find out all i can
Frame data for cancel leaves you at neutral (0) so as long as the move you cancelled from was +, it should be whatever frame that was + whatever active frames you made it through during P'n'G. I think, if my understanding of frame advantage and sheet is correct.are there any times where PnGRC leaves you at plus? i cant play for a while so trying to find out all i can
The frame data is telling me that PnG only has 1 startup frame, 0 active and 51 Recover. But is it really only 1 frame? Feels slower to me.
everytime you post your name reminds me of "crypt of rays" by Celtic Frost...lol, sorry, I'll leave now..
HaHa
Could be that they only agree that the run cancel itself makes others look underwhelming, and not the character as a whole, so it's just interpretation. I would agree with that to some extent.
Better punishes, yes. But the mind game that comes with, "will I cancel or not" after conditioning them with frame traps and armor makes it the best variation in my opinion. Once you get them conditioned to not press buttons, then cancel into throw. Adds a whole new level.
I'm still interested in what you have to say.Lol you guys are lucky I didn't see this thread a couple of days ago.
Ruthless is pretty fucking legit right now. Tbh, I don't see a reason to even use Vicous or Lackey anymore in a lot of matchups.
lol no it doesn't
You really think the LAW cancel is better than the PnG!? What is your reasoning?
first i'd like to say i'm a jax main and i've also played ferra since launch
Are you sure you can make f3 safe with a cancel?? I thought that could be blown up.... Been wrong before. I feel F/T has good anti airs tools. His d2 is garbage but he has that overhead slap move and his d1 and d3 are awesome for anti airs and get good damage. F/T's PnG cancel stacks in both armor and damage.
Kitana, Cybernetic, Reptile, Lui Kang counter zoning
Anti-rushdown, I feel like Lackey can do well in matchups that favour Ruthless, they just have to play much more carefully.
b2 (the OH slap), has almost no vertical hitbox over or directly in front of Torr, it's not as good as you would think, d1 and d3 are good, but Torr's hitbox makes low profiling jump ins/cross ups difficult.
I'm really hoping for a new string w/o Ferra to give us more options after PnG cancel, alternatively, Ferra shouldn't fall off after a backdash cancel, doesn't really make sense to me, the recovery on our backdash hardly makes this broken. Even just Lackey's b2, or the wakeup version of bf3 would be awesome.
