Guide - Stunt Double Please delete this thread, as I don't know how & I've made a new and much better one

[FluffyKittenPops]

I did, I was beating out 6 frame upper cut with Johnny's 8 frame jab, I think it's +3, not much, but it's good if say, you use both of your mimics and need to buy time to cancel into mimic again? (;

Please do setup / combo videos. Ive been working at it, and it's hard to make some good damaging Wall carry/mid screen combos.

 

[Biologic]

O_O THAT FAST OF RECOVERY? well damn.

You can cancel almost any string into Mimic and then use shadow kick right away to make you +frames

 

[Biologic]

Please do setup / combo videos. Ive been working at it, and it's hard to make some good damaging Wall carry/mid screen combos.

Already working on it.

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

Already working on it.

Lol. You should make a youtube for us Johnnys. And I'll help out finding more tech. I just need to learn how to test stuff.

 

[Wrath0594]

Ah, damn. 114 into mimic cancel has a sizable gap for armored moves though
Oh. Seems mimic cancel into ex db1 will beat out certain armor. Idk, needs more testing. Definitely liking this tech.

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

Ah, damn. 114 into mimic cancel has a sizable gap for armored moves though
Oh. Seems mimic cancel into ex db1 will beat out certain armor. Idk, needs more testing. Definitely liking this tech.

But how could you calculate an armored move? And react fast enough with a ex nutpunch. Btw. Test kung Laos ex spin. And ex tempest spin.

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

Maybe johnny has some armor stuffing strings. Like kung jin has f3,3. Stuffs wakeup armor

 

[Frosted 57]

Question, from the mimic cancel I can cancel into EnDB1 but not EnBF4, is that a thing or am I doing something wrong?

 

[Biologic]

Question, from the mimic cancel I can cancel into EnDB1 but not EnBF4, is that a thing or am I doing something wrong?

You're doing something wrong

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

Problem is, JC still struggles with Subzero pressure. Oh how the tides have turned.

 

[Wrath0594]

You're doing something wrong

You sure? I can't seem to either. Wanted to try to see if ex bf4 would counter armor.

 

[Wrath0594]

Btw, let me know if anyone manages to replicate the weird clone stuff I uploaded. Want to know if maybe I'm just special and Johnny has chosen me to be the bearer of an entirely unique tech.

 

[Biologic]

You sure? I can't seem to either. Wanted to try to see if ex bf4 would counter armor.

Actually no, doesn't seem to be working, thought I thought I was doing it earlier while trying to mimic you're double clone stuff

 

[Frosted 57]

Actually no, doesn't seem to be working, thought I thought I was doing it earlier while trying to mimic you're double clone stuff

CURSE YOU!!! Making me think I'm crazy for 10 minutes.

 

[Biologic]

CURSE YOU!!! Making me think I'm crazy for 10 minutes.

Sorrrryyyy!! Also appears you can't do the double clones if one lands, kind of a good thing so you don't waste the second clone

 

[Wrath0594]

But how could you calculate an armored move? And react fast enough with a ex nutpunch. Btw. Test kung Laos ex spin. And ex tempest spin.

Kung Lao's ex spin beats every option after 114, and he can just wait to see if you try to go into the clones. Even if you couldn't react and you try to 114, delay, then immedietely ex any of johhny's specials- ex spin beats it even in buzzsaw.

Mimic cancel into shadow kick or uppercut beat normal spin, but if he has meter, you can't safely go into mimics on block.
Lastly- both buzzsaw and tempest KL trades spin with shadow kick off of b34 mimic cancel.

So if you want to go into mimics on block, 114 is your best bet, but b34 is pretty damn safe too, as long as your opponent can't armor through the gaps.

 

[Wrath0594]

Sorrrryyyy!! Also appears you can't do the double clones if one lands, kind of a good thing so you don't waste the second clone

Wait, did you get my tech to work?

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

Kung Lao's ex spin beats every option after 114, and he can just wait to see if you try to go into the clones. Even if you couldn't react and you try to 114, delay, then immedietely ex any of johhny's specials- ex spin beats it even in buzzsaw.

Mimic cancel into shadow kick or uppercut beat normal spin, but if he has meter, you can't safely go into mimics on block.
Lastly- both buzzsaw and tempest KL trades spin with shadow kick off of b34 mimic cancel.

So if you want to go into mimics on block, 114 is your best bet, but b34 is pretty damn safe too, as long as your opponent can't armor through the gaps.

Well shit... holes.

 

[Biologic]

Kung Lao's ex spin beats every option after 114, and he can just wait to see if you try to go into the clones. Even if you couldn't react and you try to 114, delay, then immedietely ex any of johhny's specials- ex spin beats it even in buzzsaw.

Mimic cancel into shadow kick or uppercut beat normal spin, but if he has meter, you can't safely go into mimics on block.
Lastly- both buzzsaw and tempest KL trades spin with shadow kick off of b34 mimic cancel.

So if you want to go into mimics on block, 114 is your best bet, but b34 is pretty damn safe too, as long as your opponent can't armor through the gaps.

Should have just never showed anyone so no one would have known lol, on a side note, this could be used to bait it out, if they're not quick/have armor we can still get away with a lot

 

[Biologic]

Wait, did you get my tech to work?

No ):

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

Should have just never showed anyone so no one would have known lol, on a side note, this could be used to bait it out, if they're not quick/have armor we can still get away with a lot

B34 startup frames are alot. So.. idk. I feel like most of johnnys moves can be interrupted with ex.

 

[Wrath0594]

No ):

Must be PC specific then, since its not hard. Don't kill yourself over it. Only found it trying to do 2 quick shadow kicks to jail, like you said. Also, you can exdb1, run cancel closer, then have that clone go into shadow kick, then apply more pressure! 3 hit combo instead of 2! Wonder how long it'll take NRS to even notice.
> : D

 

[tatterbug4]

Wait so what? We can mimic cancel now?

 

[Biologic]

B34 startup frames are alot. So.. idk. I feel like most of johnnys moves can be interrupted with ex.

B3,4 isn't the only thing that be can mimic canceled into, it actually seems like F2,4 has more cancel advantage infact

Edit: NVM

 

[Wrath0594]

B34 startup frames are alot. So.. idk. I feel like most of johnnys moves can be interrupted with ex.

Idk, it'll take most people a bit to get adjusted enough to consistently armor it. It does call into question how useful it'll be tournament-wise though.