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Players bringing unfair attention to their own character?

Lumpymoomilk

Online Punching Bag
I kind of disagree, sure high level players bring attention to the character to show their potential, but if they are usually winning, it's not always the player. They have to have the potential to beat certain situations when playing at that level anyways. No player winning tournaments is winning with garbage characters completely on their own skill. Pros want to win, so they pick the best characters in most cases.

When you see how easy it is for pros or even scrubs to win with some characters/moves/traits they could and should be looked into for nerfs. But that's just my opinion. There have been no character crippling nerfs anyways. Everyone that has been nerfed is still pretty viable.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
No, fool. I brought up Nightwing because this scrub keeps saying that Deathstroke is the only pre-patch character to have "super dumb" stuff. What about Black Adam? Killer Frost? Scorpion?

Deathstroke is the most "normalized" character in the game. I am not sure what tier he belongs in, but he is not tournament viable. He went from top 3 to bottom 10 within a patch.


Now if I actually said what you quoted me as saying you would have a valid complaint. Why don't you just stop and move on to your next target...I am done feeding the troll for the night ;) If you would like to discuss this over skype or even live on twitch my drunk ass would be happy to entertain you as well as the denizens of TYM.
 

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
No, fool. I brought up Nightwing because this scrub keeps saying that Deathstroke is the only pre-patch character to have "super dumb" stuff.
He never once said that. I don't see anywhere that TakeAChance has said he's the only one. Stop chatting shit, but please do keep confirming my claims.

Another classic salty dave tactic, words in the mouth.
 

REO

Undead
He never once said that. I don't see anywhere that TakeAChance has said he's the only one. Stop chatting shit, but please do keep confirming my claims.

but that nw player said ds deserved his normalization and that ds was nerfed cuz he dominated casuals. u dont think gl dominates casuals? u dont think kf spamming slide dominates casuals? u dont think scorpion is overwhelming vs casuals?

just lol at the logic im reading in this thread
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
UsedForGlue I see what you're saying here and I understand your frustration. Characters like WW are very fragile in the sense that one small tweak here and there could completely ruin her. I think the main issue with MK9 players coming over to injustice is that they are not used to a game that actually rewards defense. It is so hard coded into them that the best defense is a good offense. They don't want to stop and defend against mixups before their window of opportunity to escape becomes available.

Another issue is that nobody is willing to admit that somebody is just a lot better than them. Its always, this is whats beating me, the character is dumb, please ruin it for me..

One thing I will say about this game or maybe just NRS games in general is that you NEED to have backup for your weaknesses. That means more than one character. The biggest reason everyone hates the "top" characters is because they can compete with a majority of the cast and apparently thats a problem. As time progresses you will see people like foxy, zyphox?, etc make moves with new characters and essentially provide the blueprint for how people should play a more obscure character. This will be exciting to them at first because it feels like, yay all my hard work paid off people are appreciating me and implementing everything I do within a matter of a week. What follows after that, and we saw it in mk9 is you get a bunch of scrubs trying to bad mouth the person they are copying. But it does not matter, because as someone who has gamed competitively for 10+ years in multiple games I know that the entrepreneurs always stay on top and the copy cats are always waiting to chew on the entrepreneurs scraps.

The one final thing I guess I would like to say here is that a lot of players are new to fighting games. And learning fighting games from MK9 is probably the worst starting point due to its design being radically different from every other fighting game. They lack the ability to explore all of their options before coming to conclusions and therefore can not be trusted when it comes to balance. Just like the Xbox One fiasco ignorant people will always be the most vocal so you may feel as if you're being drowned out. While people like me read what you have to say and move on.
 

Faded Dreams V

Retired June 2012. Unretired June 2013.
Deathstroke hasn't been nerfed enough. His guns are still too fast and his sword spin scares me when I'm close.

And when is a character with a real parry like Smoke going to be announced?
 

REO

Undead
I assume the same one Reo does.

reo has been banned more than 4 times

reo holds the title as most infractions and warnings for a member on the site

reo also holds title as most closed threads a member currently has


jus because ur bad at tournaments and dont place well and have no reason to be on frontpage EVER doesnt mean ppl suck D to get noticed
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
but that nw player said ds deserved his normalization and that ds was nerfed cuz he dominated casuals. u dont think gl dominates casuals? u dont think kf spamming slide dominates casuals? u dont think scorpion is overwhelming vs casuals?

just lol at the logic im reading in this thread

Funny, I don't recall saying any of that.

TYM Home of the inaccurate paraphrasers.

I actually said just the opposite.

But hey, I'm just a scrub...and fucking proud of it.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
reo has been banned more than 4 times

reo holds the title as most infractions and warnings for a member on the site

reo also holds title as most closed threads a member currently has


jus because ur bad at tournaments and dont place well and have no reason to be on frontpage EVER doesnt mean ppl suck D to get noticed

Reo, you should probably cover your tracks more when you create an alt account.
 

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
but that nw player said ds deserved his normalization and that ds was nerfed cuz he dominated casuals. u dont think gl dominates casuals? u dont think kf spamming slide dominates casuals? u dont think scorpion is overwhelming vs casuals?

just lol at the logic im reading in this thread
No, the discussion was about DS, then Dave got salty and pulled out some other shit, and no doubt has gone crying to you to come back him up.

He also didn't say he was nerfed because he dominated casuals.
 
The one final thing I guess I would like to say here is that a lot of players are new to fighting games. And learning fighting games from MK9 is probably the worst starting point due to its design being radically different from every other fighting game.
^this so much
 

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
reo has been banned more than 4 times

reo holds the title as most infractions and warnings for a member on the site

reo also holds title as most closed threads a member currently has


jus because ur bad at tournaments and dont place well and have no reason to be on frontpage EVER doesnt mean ppl suck D to get noticed
He has the most closed threads because those threads are trolling trash.

And yet REO still is allowed this new alt account and has a premium supporter status. Good one.
 

REO

Undead
Funny, I don't recall saying any of that.

TYM Home of the inaccurate paraphrasers.

I actually said just the opposite.

But hey, I'm just a scrub...and fucking proud of it.

scrub = ppl who think nw is 100% fine and not super scrubby or busted.

nw... the char who can steam roll casuals by jumping like a moron and mashing staff d1 x infinite

lol @ that char being "fine"
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Incorrect.

On page two...

So what, is that statement incorrect? Aren't you the one always bitching because the "casuals" cried about Deathstroke... i am sorry Dave... it just seems like you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
scrub = ppl who think nw is 100% fine and not super scrubby or busted.

nw... the char who can steam roll casuals by jumping like a moron and mashing staff d1 x infinite

lol @ that char being "fine"
What would you like nerfed? I would gladly tell you why he needs it.
 

Lumpymoomilk

Online Punching Bag
I also wouldn't be concerned about WW getting a nerf, first of all, no one is really even complaining about her. Anyone who's not an idiot can see Foxy is making Wonder Woman look good, she's a great character and she was underrated for a long time till people started seeing his. He is winning because his set up's are clever and he's using the characters full potential, she has no BS really, she's just good. I would hope everyone can tell that because you can't just mash out 1 or 2 broken specials or string like a half wit and win. You actually need to learn her and use her full set of tools to be really good with her.
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
So many tournaments were won by pre-patch Deathstroke pro players, right?

Sao87, who was the only Freddy player to place top 8 with Freddy and win major tournaments?
I guess they didn't like how deathstroke made the game look when he was winning tournaments.

You're assuming I give a fuck about MK9 and wouldn't destroy you in it. You fucking blow at Injustice, I hope I run into you at Evo so I can eliminate you.