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Nobody commented anything on Sonya yet, that's how wanted by fans she is. Subzy has 100+ comments

Samsara

Resident Cynic
You're being dumb. I'm saying the reason there are over 100 posts there just a day after the character forums opened, is because the SubZero thread has been going on for a long while, it wasnt all commented in just a day. Pretty much all the others were at 0 posts, including golden boy Scorpion, because there was no pre release thread moved there. Or do I need to draw a picture for you? Stop acting triggered.
Yo calm down my dude. Lol. All I'm saying is our thread is lit and Sonya isnt.
 
I hate this argument. Just because she is one of the first characters to ever be in the franchise shouldn't mean she is automatically locked onto the roster. I feel like that with most legacy characters, and it's one of the reasons why the MKX roster felt so stale. A good handful of them were just there BECAUSE they are legacy characters, but didn't really have any other reason to be in the game.

I'd rather they sat out the game and made room for other fan favourites who weren't in MKX.
Again people coming for sonya because she’s ‘boring’ yet fails to understand she has fans. Why can’t sub zero or and scorpion skip a game? No one complains for them. The roster is barely female as it is, the more the welcome.
 

HeavyNorse

#BlackLivesMatter
Again people coming for sonya because she’s ‘boring’ yet fails to understand she has fans. Why can’t sub zero or and scorpion skip a game? No one complains for them. The roster is barely female as it is, the more the welcome.
We all know Scorpion and Sub-Zero aren't going to ever skip a game again, so there's no reason to even discuss that. It shouldn't count for any other character though.

MK has other female characters who haven't had a chance to be on a modern MK roster yet at all, so seeing the same ones return again and again and again makes their chances a lot lesser.
 

xiskza

Underworld
We all know Scorpion and Sub-Zero aren't going to ever skip a game again, so there's no reason to even discuss that. It shouldn't count for any other character though.

MK has other female characters who haven't had a chance to be on a modern MK roster yet at all, so seeing the same ones return again and again and again makes their chances a lot lesser.
Nobody will complain if Kitana or Mileena come back from MKX let's be honest. The target seems to be Sonya because they dont like her personality and find bratty Cassie more entertaining. Even though she's always been popular and is considered A-tier by NRS, people are "shocked" that she's back even though out of all the females she's been in the most games along with Kitana. Makes zero sense for her return to be shocking. Not to mention the impact she's had on a lot of people who grew up with MK, look and Ronda for an example.
 
We all know Scorpion and Sub-Zero aren't going to ever skip a game again, so there's no reason to even discuss that. It shouldn't count for any other character though.

MK has other female characters who haven't had a chance to be on a modern MK roster yet at all, so seeing the same ones return again and again and again makes their chances a lot lesser.
So why can’t sonya become a staple female? She’s been in since the beginning and is basically the chun li of mk? But that’s a problem apperently. She is popular especially with casual gamers. I love a lot of characters but I’m not going to complain, she’s basically THE earth representive.
 

HeavyNorse

#BlackLivesMatter
Nobody will complain if Kitana or Mileena come back from MKX let's be honest. The target seems to be Sonya because they dont like her personality and find bratty Cassie more entertaining. Even though she's always been popular and is considered A-tier by NRS, people are "shocked" that she's back even though out of all the females she's been in the most games along with Kitana. Makes zero sense for her return to be shocking. Not to mention the impact she's had on a lot of people who grew up with MK, look and Ronda for an example.
Honestly, as much as I love Kitana and Mileena, I wouldn't mind either of them to take a back seat from the main roster in MK11 and then maybe be DLC instead.

Kitana in MKX was another example of "she's just there to be there", while Mileena was a prominent character in the story. Now Mileena is dead, and though that means little in the world of Mortal Kombat, ESPECIALLY now that the story is going to mess with timelines/time-travel and such, I feel Mileena staying out of the main roster and being DLC instead would be alright to do.

I'm not shocked to see Sonya back, not one bit. I would just rather Cassie was on the main roster, and then maybe Sonya could be a skin or DLC as well. As I've said before, I feel like that with most of the legacy characters, tbh. But seeing Sonya is now on the roster, I hope Cassie will be a skin for her instead, just so they won't take up the roster space.

I repeat myself here, but one of the main things that people complained about in MKX was the roster was just... dull. A lot of fan favourites were omitted from it, so I would just have preferred to see MK11 have some of those back!
 

Alec

Noob
How Ironic is it that Sonya is now one of the most commented character threads? Much because this one? :rolleyes:

Now, more seriously, not commenting on Sonya specifically, but char threads don't have, necessarily, big merit on how "wanted" a character is; and TYM in general, is not representative of character popularity.

Personally, I'd love to see a LOT of characters who are probably NOT gonna make it, but, still, I wish everyone did not talk about their personal wishes as categorical truths.
It's almost never a "singular opinion" and always what "everyone" or "no one" wants.
 

aj1701

Noob
I don't know, look at how hype people are for Skarlet. I'm not going to lie: I didn't expect this much hype for her either, but that goes to show much hype can an unexpected character generate.
The hype for Skarlet is because people liked her in MK9 but I don't think ever really expected to see her return.
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
You're being dumb. I'm saying the reason there are over 100 posts there just a day after the character forums opened, is because the SubZero thread has been going on for a long while, it wasnt all commented in just a day. Pretty much all the others were at 0 posts, including golden boy Scorpion, because there was no pre release thread moved there. Or do I need to draw a picture for you? Stop acting triggered.
Well to be fair, Sub Zero is way cooler (and literally cooler) than scorpion. So. :p
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
100% agree. Plus the fact that she is voiced by that trash person is another reason to never pick her in the game.
Both Cage parents can fuck off.
I get not wanting Sonya, I didn't want her either, but let's not take the chance to spread hate. Calling Ronda trash seems way unnecessary.

The hype for Skarlet is because people liked her in MK9 but I don't think ever really expected to see her return.
A lot of people liked her from MK11 itself. Her new look got her many fans it seems, and for good reason.
 
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aj1701

Noob
A lot of people liked her from MK11 itself. Her new look got her many fans it seems, and for good reason.
Her new look is also getting trashed pretty heavily. Its too early to say if people like her for MK11 yet, since very few people have had a chance to play her. I thought he was fun to play in MK9, and had a great design, which was why I wanted her back in later games. I don't like the new design though, but maybe she'll still be really fun to play, so I'm still glad she's back, but still a bit disappointed so far. We'll see at release though.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
Her new look is also getting trashed pretty heavily. Its too early to say if people like her for MK11 yet, since very few people have had a chance to play her. I thought he was fun to play in MK9, and had a great design, which was why I wanted her back in later games. I don't like the new design though, but maybe she'll still be really fun to play, so I'm still glad she's back, but still a bit disappointed so far. We'll see at release though.
I'm the opposite. I liked her in MK9, but didn't find her fun to play (probably because she was quite hard and it was my first serious fighting game). In MK11 though she not only looks amazing, she also seems to fit my playstyle quite a bit. I miss the red hair though.
 

Vslayer

Kurses in moose
Lead Moderator
The more I hear people bitch, the more I want to pick her just to piss people off.
Same. Besides, she made a mistake and she apologized for it. Holding grudges, especially towards someone you don't even know, is hard on the soul man.
 

Vslayer

Kurses in moose
Lead Moderator
...I think I'm missing part of the story here, what did she do?
In 2014 there was this whole outrage that Fallon Fox, a trans woman, was able to compete against female MMA fighters and Rousey said that even if Fallon gets surgery, she's still biologically a man and thus has an advantage over women and if she won a championship it wouldn't really be a woman winning it etc., which I completely agree with. Then there was this whole thing where she shared a conspiracy video about the sandy hook shooting. She took it down and apologized.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
In 2014 there was this whole outrage that Fallon Fox, a trans woman, was able to compete against female MMA fighters and Rousey said that even if Fallon gets surgery, she's still biologically a man and thus has an advantage over women and if she won a championship it wouldn't really be a woman winning it etc., which I completely agree with. Then there was this whole thing where she shared a conspiracy video about the sandy hook shooting. She took it down and apologized.
So that's what the fuzz was all about? I was just mad that Sonya's old, more talented, voice actress was replaced for marketing reasons.

I swear to God americans need to find a way to fit politics everywhere, but yeah I've heard of that MMA story and I agree with her too. I know nothing of that shooting conspiracy thing, but I honestly couldn't care less about her person, I'm only interested in her acting skills.
 

CallMeTetris

draxx them sklounst
She never actually apologized for the sandy hook thing, or even really renounced it besides taking it down and giving a vaguely worded post that could be interpreted as still being in support of the original post.

And re: Fallon Fox, not only was Ronda's response worded in a shitty TERFy way, but i'd wager most cis women in ufc have more testosterone running through them than a trans woman on proper hrt. That "biological" shit is what keeps Mack Beggs winning.

also ronda's been fucking terrible at everything she's ever done, voice acting included

she's a garbage heap and people are right to dislike her