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[roosTakk]

I recall a small number of members saying that the current netcode is the best possible netcode that MKX could use and that GGPO would be a step down.

Now, if we're getting GGPO, we'll be able to see for real.

Assholes talking out of their ass, nothing new

 

[Rathalos]

With out a doubt it's pretty safe to say its GGPO.
Original tweet was like 95% confirmation, other 5% got further confirmed by the CM and Derek and Boon all kinda saying its true with out actually saying it.

If you still want to be pessimistic like me, just think of all the ways they could screw up the implementation.
Online could be broken for weeks, constantly teleporting, even more desyncs, its not even a full netcode swap, but just an optional mode that is exclusive to private match.

But man, if it works, I will love you forever.
And even if it doesn't, we know they are actually willing to implement it, and it says good things about Injustice 2/WWE Immortals console edition.

 

[jharris]

got a q if ayone has good knowledge of ggpo. I currently play on a wired connection, playing on wifi is possible but is noticably worse than wired, but i cant play as much as i like as the router is in a shared room of the house. Will ggpo make playing on wifi more feasible? Its still a good fast connection on wifi, but wired is obv better

 

[God Confirm]

Assholes talking out of their ass, nothing new

It's hilarious how hard these people argued this shit. If this does happen and netcode gets significantly improved, I'm going to go back through and quote all the absolute morons repeatiing over and over that the netcode couldn't be improved like they had any idea of the state of technology in 2015 and refusing to listen to ANY logic on the matter. I've seen it said over and over and over on here.

 

[TotteryManx]

If it does turn out to be GGPO. We should all give them an applause. That would be no easy task and probably required a lot of work. It's also good for our community. I can't tell you how many times people ask if the netcode has improved. This could boost the player base and in return sell DLC for NRS/WB. Smart move.

 

[TotteryManx]

It's hilarious how hard these people argued this shit. If this does happen and netcode gets significantly improved, I'm going to go back through and quote all the absolute morons repeatiing over and over that the netcode couldn't be improved like they had any idea of the state of technology in 2015 and refusing to listen to ANY logic on the matter. I've seen it said over and over and over on here.

It's not that it couldn't be improved, its that it would require a lot of work. From my understanding, the game was built ground up with their netcode. If GGPO is incorporated then NRS did a lot of work. That's why people gave up hope. Look at MK9 and IGAU. No one expects it lol. However, if it is GGPO this means every one of their games will have it. Doubt they'd go back.

 

[Afk Skinny]

I could completely ignore all my complaints with this game if they manage to make online better. Pls dont get me excited, Boon

 

[PunkMafia83]

Interesting......

 

[DFSHINNOK7]

WWE Immortals console edition.

 

[TackyHaddock]

I'm curious why they wouldn't have tested both the current netcode and GGPO prior to the release of the game. They must have gotten advice from some so-called expert on the matter that the current netcode would work better with the engine and that it would be too expensive to test both.

In any case, it seems fairly obvious that they already have tested it with very positive results at this point. They would not make this type of hype public announcement if there was any real risk that GGPO would not work well for this game.

 

[themanDan]

With out a doubt it's pretty safe to say its GGPO.
Original tweet was like 95% confirmation, other 5% got further confirmed by the CM and Derek and Boon all kinda saying its true with out actually saying it.

If you still want to be pessimistic like me, just think of all the ways they could screw up the implementation.
Online could be broken for weeks, constantly teleporting, even more desyncs, its not even a full netcode swap, but just an optional mode that is exclusive to private match.

But man, if it works, I will love you forever.
And even if it doesn't, we know they are actually willing to implement it, and it says good things about Injustice 2/WWE Immortals console edition.

If it is GGPO, and it does turn out to be garbage anyway, I guess I would be happy that they at least tried to give the players what they wanted. But yea, I'm not going to get my hopes up too high, but there is a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel with that tweet.

 

[LASD]

What does a revamped net code mean for ESL season 3?

 

[Zoidberg747]

It's not that it couldn't be improved, its that it would require a lot of work. From my understanding, the game was built ground up with their netcode. If GGPO is incorporated then NRS did a lot of work. That's why people gave up hope. Look at MK9 and IGAU. No one expects it lol. However, if it is GGPO this means every one of their games will have it. Doubt they'd go back.

This. Even if they use ggpo there is no guarantee it wont have problems.
But just the fact that they would be willing to implement it is a huge step because they could figure out issues and work on them for next game. Im excited.

 

[Perdition]

Ultimate Edition with a revamped netcode would be the ultimate apology from NRS.

 

[TotteryManx]

if it does end up being GGPO hope you people using wet socks for modems & wireless know that still wont help you

ehhhh. I have a buddy that lives in TX. He has the worst internet I've ever seen. Less than 1 up and 5 down. We have a pretty decent connection on Skullgirls, but every other fighting games plays horribly. Rollback definitely helps to a certain degree, which we do get time to time.

 

[TotteryManx]

This. Even if they use ggpo there is no guarantee it wont have problems.
But just the fact that they would be willing to implement it is a huge step because they could figure out issues and work on them for next game. Im excited.

They could mess it up. Did you ever play 3rd Strike online? They botched GGPO and later corrected it through updates. It now runs fantastically. Hopefully NRS gets it down.

 

[IrishMantis]

Here's something that you people might not of thought of

THE POSSIBILITY OF NO MORE REGION LOCK!!!!

I'm trying not to get too excited.

Btw people this does not eliminate lag in fact it could possibly be worst playing laggy people as you be teleporting like crazy


But what it will do is take the blame of the netcode and expose the actual laggers

 

[TotteryManx]

Here's something that you people might not if thought of

THE POSDIBILITY OF NO MORE REGION LOCK!!!!

I'm try to get too excited.

Btw people this does not eliminate lag in fact it could possibly be worst playing laggy people as you be teleporting like crazy

But what it will do is take the blame of the netcode and expose the actual laggers

I forgot that the PS4 version is region locked. That's super weird. That announcement wouldn't blow my hair back.

 

[God Confirm]

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It's not that it couldn't be improved, its that it would require a lot of work. From my understanding, the game was built ground up with their netcode. If GGPO is incorporated then NRS did a lot of work. That's why people gave up hope. Look at MK9 and IGAU. No one expects it lol. However, if it is GGPO this means every one of their games will have it. Doubt they'd go back.

Doesn't matter, that's the sort of work that is expected of a multiplayer game, not to mention a multiplayer game selling itself on claims of its flawless online experience. It's only more work for them now because they didn't do it right from the bat.

BTW the people citing MK9 and Injustice as "proof" are exactly the point I'm making, people said that it would literally be impossible to change the netcode or else they would have done it by now and that MK9 and Injustice are proof that they can't. Which is just flat wrong and deliberately interpreting the information at hand to make it suit your point of view. It's not proof of anything, it just shows a pattern of behavior, there's absolutely no reason to believe they were incapable of implementing technology that we know has been around since last decade, GGPO itself is now nearly 5 years old. Basically people need to shut the fuck up about stuff they have no idea about. But it's TYM, that's never gonna happen.

 

[trufenix]

Bit different. That's scumbag salesmanship and he should be condemned for it like the sack of shit he is, but at least there is motivation for it and hes not doing it deliberately out of spite or anything, its just for his own benefit.

Are you really suggesting that months before either port was done, boon knew and then consciously lied about MKX pc having a terrible launch and being basically unplayable for tons of people? Like he walked over to the High Voltage studios and saw the dev pc was literally on fire and was just like, "eh, I'll just lie to joe, the internet never quotes me on anything." Is this your suspicion?

 

[HeroesNZ]

Here's something that you people might not if thought of

THE POSDIBILITY OF NO MORE REGION LOCK!!!!

I'm try to get too excited.

Btw people this does not eliminate lag in fact it could possibly be worst playing laggy people as you be teleporting like crazy

But what it will do is take the blame of the netcode and expose the actual laggers

I thought about this too but I'm definitely not getting my hopes up. My heart couldn't take it.

 

[Eldriken]

I'm curious why they wouldn't have tested both the current netcode and GGPO prior to the release of the game. They must have gotten advice from some so-called expert on the matter that the current netcode would work better with the engine and that it would be too expensive to test both.

In any case, it seems fairly obvious that they already have tested it with very positive results at this point. They would not make this type of hype public announcement if there was any real risk that GGPO would not work well for this game.

It was probably cheaper and faster just to use the netcode they had for MK9 and Injustice. I mean, they were using the same engine, just further modified to be more up-to-date.

That's my take on it anyway.

 

[God Confirm]

Are you really suggesting that months before either port was done, boon knew and then consciously lied about MKX pc having a terrible launch and being basically unplayable for tons of people? Like he walked over to the High Voltage studios and saw the dev pc was literally on fire and was just like, "eh, I'll just lie to joe, the internet never quotes me on anything." Is this your suspicion?

No, I'm talking about when he said the netcode was fine in that same interview, which turned out to be a lie. I'm also referring to when he released statements a month or two into MKX's lifespan, saying that the netcode had been improved, with a false update to mask ping issues.

Now I asked you a question first, why did you completely ignore it. What do you mean by "backpedalling"?

 

[Eldriken]

Is it impossible for people to ask a question without being a complete ass about it?

 

[kageman]

What I don't get is why is Kung Lao fighting Kotal Kahn in the outerworld marketplace for this announcement. Maybe it has something to do with the lore between the 2 in addition to the GGPO net code?