Northern Slasher
Heads or Tails X
Kano and Cage over Lui lol
no right after flame fist chained onto F44 you can poke stuff into full combo punish, thats why he is where he is, other characters can do what he does but just do it better. like cassie/sonyaPersonally i'd put liu way higher. If somebody like curbo puts time into flame fist he could be fucking scary.
60% meterless combos in the corner which with decent execution could pretty much be considered BNB's
Crazy chip, safe on everything, one of the best zoners in the game, probably highest damage combos, completely stuffs just about any wakeup in the game.
Time will tell, there is ways around his stuff but i think he'll be top 10 in the right hands.
+28 hat is absurd, so I think most can agree that it needs adjustment. Even PL said soTempest nerfs coming?
you been using Shaolin or still only on that Bojutsu tip?Nope, KJ is still S++ blazeupGODtier because he can confirm from anything.
I have been saying that KJ isn't even top 10 but nobody listens.
EDIT: shout out to top 10 Shinnok. Started from the bottom
YOUR SACRIFICE HONORS ME!I always pick bottom tiers....... fuck
i actually didn't have a say in this tier list because i fell a sleep LMFAO so i don't want no one on here thinking i'm downplaying Kang or takeda, i literally was snoring my lungs out while they tried to talk over my snoring to make this tier lists LOL.I blame @YOMI Trepound380 and @YOMI Zyphox for the pathetic tier placement of my character.
You two aren't helping the situation here
yes you are right, but he is not the same as he used to be..... his sand trap is garbage now, cant link it on D3, his F13 punishable, 21122 punishable with cancel. all his specials are hot garbage slow on SU now.....you should understand after the nerfs he has dropped alot. probably more than were he is placed, he is being generous with that placement.You are honestly of no need of any tier list telling you where each character is ranked specifically if you understand which gameplay characteristics are most relevant to Mortal Kombat X's current meta game. The following list was originally posted by @GGA Max in the "Zoning Academy" thread. I slightly revised some wording and placed the gameplay characteristics in order of relevance.
1. 50/50 mix ups and pressure
2. Neutral game and footsies
3. Armored EX special move that leads to damage
4. Space control, zoning, and anti-zoning
5. Damage output
If you review this "check list", you will notice that Erron Black has almost all the tools that correspond to each characteristic. On the other hand, a character like Cybernetic Kano does not, so he will be ranked a lot lower.
Liu Kang at 18 and Kenshi at 6? For real?
1.) Tanya (most favorable match ups)
2.) Kung Lao (no losing match ups, best anti air, best jump attacks, etc.)
3.) Raiden (best corner carry, best corner vortex, safe 50/50s, etc.)
4.) D'Vorah (top footsies, no hurtbox on stingers, etc.)
5.) Quan Chi (best mix ups, best come back factor)
6.) Kenshi (unbreakable damage, meter gain, favorable match ups, etc.)
7.) Cassie Cage (best punisher, top footsies, etc.)
8.) Shinnok
9.) Jax
10.) Erron Black
11.) Sonya Blade
12.) Kung Jin
13.) Ermac
14.) Sub-Zero
15.) Scorpion
16.) Kano
17.) Johnny Cage
18.) Liu Kang
19.) Mileena
20.) Kitana
21.) Reptile
22.) Ferra/Torr
23.) Jason
24.) Kotal Kahn
25.) Jacqui
26.) Takeda
27.) Goro
Discuss.
Now that you mentioned it..... It is kinda trueShoutouts to tier lists changing dramatically every 2 weeks and everyone just agreeing saying yes yes that's how I see it.
Okay not even I can support this extreme downplaying.yes you are right, but he is not the same as he used to be..... his sand trap is garbage now, cant link it on D3, his F13 punishable, 21122 punishable with cancel. all his specials are hot garbage slow on SU now.....you should understand after the nerfs he has dropped alot. probably more than were he is placed, he is being generous with that placement.
Nope.I was checking out shinnok and i noticed how Dark Beam (bf1) is not a universal move!!!
NRS WHY?!!!
i used to main Erron now i know better.... you can stick with him if you like thoughOkay not even I can support this extreme downplaying.
Sand Trap is still very good, 21122 is still a great pressure string, his overhead can be made safer with OSes, and he's still a top 10 character. I'd say he's around Cassie's level - which is funny because I main both of them. I'm not used to being this high up on the tier list
I highly doubt you've ever actually had a problem with the ex hat pressure, and if you did your probably just a scrub and need to level up.+28 hat is absurd, so I think most can agree that it needs adjustment. Even PL said so
I wouldnt want them to reduce the advantage to the point it didn't guarantee a string on block anymore. You are spending a bar after all and that is what the variation is about. They could increase the cooldown of ex hat spin on block, so it wouldnt guarantee another guaranteed ex hat loop after the first ex hat spin. Kung lao players would have to go for more stagger strings and find other ways to get more pressure in.+28 hat is absurd, so I think most can agree that it needs adjustment. Even PL said so
Which is one of the reasons boneshaper is the best variation currently. Dark beam is legit now.I was checking out shinnok and i noticed how Dark Beam (bf1) is not a universal move!!!
NRS WHY?!!!
that makes zero sense. Even Sonic Fox has had plenty of problems with the ex hat pressure (see his EB fights vs. DJT) and would you call him a scrub, u scrub?I highly doubt you've ever actually had a problem with the ex hat pressure, and if you did your probably just a scrub and need to level up.
Shaolin is bad. It does the same thing as Koba Jitsu and Kitana's whatever the fuck but worse because the variation specific specials are bad. I've tried to make it work, MIT tried to make it work, and so have a few others but all it has is a fast start-up string.you been using Shaolin or still only on that Bojutsu tip?
To be fair. There weren't many zods but pig m2dave and relaxed state all got results from him.Kenshi is top 10 "in theory". As with Zod and Bane; whether anyone actually uses the character well enough to warrant such a high placement is yet to be seen