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MK11 Story Discussion Thread (obvious spoilers)

Gamer68

Kollector main who plays Jacqui
Okay, I just beat the story and saw both endings (all three if you consider the one of Liu dying an "ending"), here are my thoughts:
  • The rules that apply to young and old versions of characters make no sense. Young Kano gets kick in the gut and Old Kano feels it, yet Old Scorpion beats the absolute shit out of Young Scorpion and he feels nothing?
  • Kotal Kahn can defeat Goro which was undefeated for like thousands of years, yet in both MKX and now MK11's story mode, he gets defeated by pretty much everyone and now he's a cripple. He even almost got killed by D'Vorah. It's disappointing to see NRS hype him up to be awesome only for him to be so... underwhelming?
  • Some characters kinda just disappear in the story. Where is Old Johnny? Where is Young Sonya and Johnny?
  • Cetrion and Geras are underwhelming new characters. Geras should seem unstoppable, yet he is stopped every time he shows up. He should have been this game's Sindel, so powerful he maybe even kills off a couple characters or something. Cetrion on the other hand did absolutely nothing other than "B-b-but my mom said to do this!", like Jesus. Nothing happened with these characters.
  • No mention of the whereabouts of Takeda and Kung Jin is weird. Takeda and Jacqui should still be a couple, so she doesn't mention to Cassie that she's worried about him during all of this? Kung Jin is never mentioned to Kung Lao?
  • Overall power levels make no sense. I think it makes sense for Kitana to be Kahn, but Shao is suppose to be nearly unstoppable. Yet it seems that Kitana can slice him in the face on time and he's dead for good?
  • Both the endings felt pretty much the same. One has Liu having to craft a new timeline, the other is Liu having to craft a new timeline with Kitana. Not much of a difference because either way we are getting a new timeline, lol.
  • The ending in general is too open ended. We don't actually have any idea what direction NRS is going to take. At the end of MK9, we knew revenants were going to be a thing. At the end of MKX, we knew that Dark Raiden, Emperor Liu Kang, and Empress Kitana were going to be a thing. At the end of MK11 we know nothing other than we are going to see a new timeline. I guess the only big takeaway is that Raiden will be sitting out a game MAYBE, now that he is powerless and Fire God Liu Kang is a thing.
  • I do like how they gave Tarkata more personality other than being "that evil tribe of monsters"
  • Seeing timelines we've never seen before with cameos of Dead Pool and Pyramid of Argus was cool.
Overall, I have mixed feelings. Some scenes were cool to see happening, but when you really think about it, like 90% of the story makes no sense at all.

EDIT: I also don't like how in MK9 we got a timeline reset and now only two games later we are getting ANOTHER timeline reset. I'm really starting to get the feeling that NRS doesn't know how to continue a story without bringing in time or dimension factors.
 
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Gamer68

Kollector main who plays Jacqui
Wait, there is more than one ending?
If you win both rounds against Kronika you get the first ending.

If you win one round and lose one round, you get the second ending.

If you lose both rounds, you get the third and final "ending".

I don't know if there's secret endings, but I'm pretty sure that's it.
 

Corrupted Shinnok

Final Boss
MK11 has three endings and all I can say is damn, I'm so jealous right now! I also wanted a MKX ending in which Shinnok would beat the hell out of Cassie and conquer the Earthrealm...
 

ImperatrixSindel

Too bad YOU... will DIE!
Premium Supporter
I LOVED it. Yes it's a bit goofy, because time travel stories are almost impossible to make sensical, and yes Kronika and her goons aren't the most captivating villains of all time, but damn was this some Mortal Fucking Kombat.

I will backread at some point but @Gamer68, my thoughts in response to yours:

The rules that apply to young and old versions of characters make no sense. Young Kano gets kick in the gut and Old Kano feels it, yet Old Scorpion beats the absolute shit out of Young Scorpion and he feels nothing?
Time travel stories are always goofy with this and go mostly based on what the plot demands. Scorpion was the only real inconsistency and maybe revenants don't feel pain the same way~ or something.

Kotal Kahn can defeat Goro which was undefeated for like thousands of years, yet in both MKX and now MK11's story mode, he gets defeated by pretty much everyone and now he's a cripple. He even almost got killed by D'Vorah. It's disappointing to see NRS hype him up to be awesome only for him to be so... underwhelming?
I think they make a point of illustrating that Kotal is past his prime, much as Goro was past his prime when Kotal defeated him. That's part of his conversation with Jade, where he's like you are exactly the same as you were and I'm old now, and she's like it's cool I still wanna bang. I thought he came across as a really powerful dude who is unfortunately not as powerful as he once was, and certainly not as powerful as Shao Kahn at the peak of his strength.

Some characters kinda just disappear in the story. Where is Old Johnny? Where is Young Sonya and Johnny?
Young Johnny was severely injured, which meant Old Johnny was also severely injured, so that made sense to me. Young Sonya exits stage left to take care of them because Ronda Rousey cannot act her way out of a paper bag and they clearly tried their best to use her sparingly imo lol

Cetrion and Geras are underwhelming new characters. Geras should seem unstoppable, yet he is stopped every time he shows up. He should have been this game's Sindel, so powerful he maybe even kills off a couple characters or something. Cetrion on the other hand did absolutely nothing other than "B-b-but my mom said to do this!", like Jesus. Nothing happened with these characters.
I thought Geras was a really fun implacable juggernaut type. He IS unstoppable, because you can't kill him, and I thought they got that vibe across well. He doesn't have a ton of personality, but he's a fun mook for Terminator-style sequences.

That said, Cetrion was a total bomb. Just nothing to that character, unfortunately. A real letdown.

No mention of the whereabouts of Takeda and Kung Jin is weird. Takeda and Jacqui should still be a couple, so she doesn't mention to Cassie that she's worried about him during all of this? Kung Jin is never mentioned to Kung Lao?
It's been two years and they're not official special forces members, so I figure they're off doing something else.

Jacqui says she and Takeda are engaged now in one of her fight intros, IIRC vs. Johnny.

Overall power levels make no sense. I think it makes sense for Kitana to be Kahn, but Shao is suppose to be nearly unstoppable. Yet it seems that Kitana can slice him in the face on time and he's dead for good?
Power levels in MK are always whatever the plot demands, and Kitana in particular has varied a lot in terms of power level over the course of the series. A lot of people softened Shao Kahn up before she struck the killing blow, and narratively I think it really should always have been her to kill him in the first place, so I was cool with it.

Both the endings felt pretty much the same. One has Liu having to craft a new timeline, the other is Liu having to craft a new timeline with Kitana. Not much of a difference because either way we are getting a new timeline, lol.
There's only one ending, really, it's just got Silent Hill style GOOD versus GOOD+ variants.

The ending in general is too open ended. We don't actually have any idea what direction NRS is going to take. At the end of MK9, we knew revenants were going to be a thing. At the end of MKX, we knew that Dark Raiden, Emperor Liu Kang, and Empress Kitana were going to be a thing. At the end of MK11 we know nothing other than we are going to see a new timeline. I guess the only big takeaway is that Raiden will be sitting out a game MAYBE, now that he is powerless and Fire God Liu Kang is a thing.
I actually was totally fine with this, because it made MK9/MKX/MK11 feel like a complete trilogy. I think the point is that they are closing this chapter entirely and whatever comes next can be an entirely new story. Honestly, while I don't WANT it to be the case, and I doubt it will be... storywise this would make a lot of sense as the final Mortal Kombat game.

I also don't like how in MK9 we got a timeline reset and now only two games later we are getting ANOTHER timeline reset. I'm really starting to get the feeling that NRS doesn't know how to continue a story without bringing in time or dimension factors.
I mean, they don't, particularly. The MK story has always been kind of a slapdash series of set pieces. It's a lot of fun with great characters and settings, but internal continuity and plot development was never Midway's strong suit.

The bigger thing here was they wrote themselves into a corner. They killed off so many fan favorites in MK9, and then the MKX newbies weren't quite as popular as they'd hoped, so I think they feel a bit like they need to go back to the drawing board. I'm interested to see what comes next.
 
The MK story has always been kind of a slapdash series of set pieces. It's a lot of fun with great characters and settings, but internal continuity and plot development was never Midway's strong suit.
This is the exact wavelength people need to be on if they wanna have a good time with the NRS story modes (at least for MK - I never played Injustice). I notice people who agonize over retcons have a tougher pill to swallow. I stopped caring for that with MKX and was able to enjoy the wild, fun ride of MK11's ridiculous adventure pretty well.
 

Jiderx

Noob
This is the exact wavelength people need to be on if they wanna have a good time with the NRS story modes (at least for MK - I never played Injustice). I notice people who agonize over retcons have a tougher pill to swallow. I stopped caring for that with MKX and was able to enjoy the wild, fun ride of MK11's ridiculous adventure pretty well.
I guess I am one of those who finds it difficult to accept the story without some key explanations. Oh well it is what it is.
 
If Kronika is the mother of Cetrion and Shinnok.

Who was the daddy?

And if there is no one what about the parents of the other 3 elder gods?
 
If Kronika is the mother of Cetrion and Shinnok.

Who was the daddy?

And if there is no one what about the parents of the other 3 elder gods?
 
If Kronika is the mother of Cetrion and Shinnok.

Who was the daddy?

And if there is no one what about the parents of the other 3 elder gods?
 

Corrupted Shinnok

Final Boss
The One Being maybe? Given that Shinnok lost to Cassie and Cetrion lost to Jacqui, I can see The One Being debuting in MK12 and being defeated by Kitana and Liu Kang's daughter, ugh. :eek:
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Premium Supporter
Overall made sense though convoluted but hey that's time travel for ya lol. Power levels at times with certain characters seemed a little off but that happens in everything and especially in comics, so I'm kind of used to it lol or when needed plot devices lol. But I think we'll see Raiden again, probably get his powers back some how because I can't imagine an MK without Raiden, Sub or Scorpion(at least if it's modern times or somewhat close to it) lol I love how Geras is the Doomsday of MK lol, dude never dies and if he dies he just comes back stronger lol.


Skarlet wins sexiest voice in the game btw, would love to hear her talk dirty :p:D
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
Premium Supporter
Just finished the story and damn, Kronika's fight in hard is... well, hard.

Anyway, I really liked the story. It had its up and downs but I think this is their best story mode yet. Most characters, even jobbers, are given some personality and the flow is nice.

The only thing I really can't get behind is Kitana beating Shao Khan. Are you serious? Shao Khan is basically a God! They should have brought him down all together.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Premium Supporter
I like how in LK's arcade ending he and the other good guys become the new Elder Gods and/time keepers.
 
Where the fuck did Liu kang recover Kitana from? Won't she die of old age (eons)? If she was able to be grabbed from the timeline why not others? I don't get it.
 
Where the fuck did Liu kang recover Kitana from? Won't she die of old age (eons)? If she was able to be grabbed from the timeline why not others? I don't get it.
i think he grab her when kronika was rweind the time when when liu was facing the reverents as for the other it wont matter if he grabs the other they would die fast like raiden would but kitana would she would age slowly and can share the eons the liu togther