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MK1 (2023)'s single player offering is and has been since launch one of the best offerings in fighting game history - PART 1 2 & 3

ticklebandit!

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Oh yes, the typical interent "potential" line.

Let me give you a reality check, any "potential" you think hasn't reached, just doesn't exist. There is no potential that MK has yet to reach, because it exceeded al expectations. Reptile isn't "butchered" just because he saw one Predator movie bur rather just showing that being a Zaterran or seeing Tarkatans and what not for him it's natural, just like for Johnny Cage seeing Predator is natural but seeing Zaterrans and whatnot is not, that intro was there to show that the characters have different experiences and therefore different POV's. Also Havik just lost to Noob Saibot and lost his limbs, and Bi-Han being arrogant and full of anger is to show of his character being too ambitious for his own. Also the chapter-based story is exactly what need for us to get to know that characters more and see their characters being developed. And MK was the one that started the Multiverse trend in pop culture with MK9 , not the MCU, so your comparison is mute.

And if you call acting and pacing in any NRS/WB game story "porn level" acting and pacing then you never saw any actual bad movies with that kind of stuff.

You are just mad because you can't take your nostalgia goggles off. On the contrary, it is SF and Tekken that lost everything. All the SF games have proved more and more that the premise in SF has no weight, same thing with Tekken that just tries to keep the Guinness record going. As for now, with the exception of Alpha 2 and 3, I find any SF game to be just straight up unplayable, and even with them I have gripes. And with Tekken, any Tekken game post Tekken 5 DR is also unplayable. And it's not just because of the story for either IP but also just overall direction, design, philosophy and business practices.

And therefore I'm not going to SF or Tekken related sites, because I don't care about them anymore. And that begs the question, why are YOU here, in an MK forum, if you don't like MK anymore? Wouldn't you better of to go to like Eventhubs or something? Because would make way more sense for you to go there
So did Havik just get bored of instantly regenerating? Did his army of regenerating clones (or whatever they were, its been awhile) just decide to stop? The answer to both of these questions is YES, which is bad writing.

I could pick apart your post but you sound like a pro NRS zealot/lunatic. I got tired of debating with you guys during mk11. There's no point. We won't agree. Also I can't tell if you're trolling, or like an actual child. No hate if you're on the younger side tho, just saying.

And I don't hate MK. As a life long fan I'm just disappointed in the lack luster approach to their own lore. In the universe they've created there is the ground work for a Lord of the Rings or Star Wars caliber story/saga, but they'd rather half ass it into forgettable cheese. Miles and miles ahead of any other fighting game for sure, but that bar is so low its almost not worth being an achievement. lol

Also in both of my posts i'm exclusively talking about the story mode, if that wasn't clear.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
So did Havik just get bored of instantly regenerating? Did his army of regenerating clones (or whatever they were, its been awhile) just decide to stop? The answer to both of these questions is YES, which is bad writing.

I could pick apart your post but you sound like a pro NRS zealot/lunatic. I got tired of debating with you guys during mk11. There's no point. We won't agree. Also I can't tell if you're trolling, or like an actual child. No hate if you're on the younger side tho, just saying.

And I don't hate MK. As a life long fan I'm just disappointed in the lack luster approach to their own lore. In the universe they've created there is the ground work for a Lord of the Rings or Star Wars caliber story/saga, but they'd rather half ass it into forgettable cheese. Miles and miles ahead of any other fighting game for sure, but that bar is so low its almost not worth being an achievement. lol

Also in both of my posts i'm exclusively talking about the story mode, if that wasn't clear.
Havik lost his limbs because of Noob Saibot, Havik can only regenerate limbs when he himself takes them off or if someone accidently ripping them off (like with Joker's ending in MK11), but if someone else ripping off viciously and on purpose, especially if it's someone that is made by chaos energy, like how Noob Saibot is created in this new timeline, Havik can't regenerate regenerate (especially when Noob Saibot told Liu Kang to let him beat Havik since he knows how Havik thinks at all). I mean think about it, if Havik could've easily regenerate no matter the circumstances then how can you perform Fatalities or any finishing move on him? Quan Chi also killed Havik in the MKX comics after he stomped on his already decapitated head, why Havik didn't generate his whole body then and there? Because even as a cleric of chaos there are still limits to his powers.

Also MK lore is at the same calibur as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings if not even better than them. Trust me when I say this. It is not lack luster at all. And you may like MK in general, but if you like only one specific era of MK but also hate everything else with this much passion then once again, why are you here? I'm also a Marvel VS. Capcom fan, it's my 2nd favorite fighting game IP only behind MK, and yet I only like the early MVC games, everything post MVC1 I don't, especially MVCI. So I don't go for for MVC channels or sites and whatnot, because what's the point of being in an interent place when you clearly know that the modern-day stuff of that IP is what is gonna be brought up constantly? You like Star Wars and LOTR more? Wouldn't be better for you to just go there?

And even more so, if I'm such a "lunatic' and you are tired of arguing with other people why did you even comment in the first place? I mean you saw my SP content breakdowns, in my 3 main posts in this thread. These alone should've helped you come to a conclusion on if it's even worth posting for you here or not.
 

zerosebaz

What's the point of a random Krypt?
Havik lost his limbs because of Noob Saibot, Havik can only regenerate limbs when he himself takes them off or if someone accidently ripping them off (like with Joker's ending in MK11), but if someone else ripping off viciously and on purpose, especially if it's someone that is made by chaos energy, like how Noob Saibot is created in this new timeline, Havik can't regenerate regenerate (especially when Noob Saibot told Liu Kang to let him beat Havik since he knows how Havik thinks at all). I mean think about it, if Havik could've easily regenerate no matter the circumstances then how can you perform Fatalities or any finishing move on him? Quan Chi also killed Havik in the MKX comics after he stomped on his already decapitated head, why Havik didn't generate his whole body then and there? Because even as a cleric of chaos there are still limits to his powers.

Also MK lore is at the same calibur as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings if not even better than them. Trust me when I say this. It is not lack luster at all. And you may like MK in general, but if you like only one specific era of MK but also hate everything else with this much passion then once again, why are you here? I'm also a Marvel VS. Capcom fan, it's my 2nd favorite fighting game IP only behind MK, and yet I only like the early MVC games, everything post MVC1 I don't, especially MVCI. So I don't go for for MVC channels or sites and whatnot, because what's the point of being in an interent place when you clearly know that the modern-day stuff of that IP is what is gonna be brought up constantly? You like Star Wars and LOTR more? Wouldn't be better for you to just go there?

And even more so, if I'm such a "lunatic' and you are tired of arguing with other people why did you even comment in the first place? I mean you saw my SP content breakdowns, in my 3 main posts in this thread. These alone should've helped you come to a conclusion on if it's even worth posting for you here or not.
MvCI is superior to its predecessors I'm every way.
 

mrapchem

Apprentice
MK1 today doesn't even offer all the total content that its predecessor did after 1.5 years, let alone at launch. And it certainly doesn't match MK11 in terms of single-player content, especially not at launch!

Damn-near half of current-day MK1's content wasn't there in September 2023.

MK1 is twice the fighting game that MK11 ever was, but to claim that MK1 at launch had one of the best offerings of single-player content in FG history is a gross misstatement, especially when its primary gameplay gimmick and single-player mode were and still are roundly rejected by the plurality of its player-base.

I know that there will be an essay written to reply back to this - don't bother because I won't be responding to it.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
MK1 today doesn't even offer all the total content that its predecessor did after 1.5 years, let alone at launch. And it certainly doesn't match MK11 in terms of single-player content, especially not at launch!

Damn-near half of current-day MK1's content wasn't there in September 2023.

MK1 is twice the fighting game that MK11 ever was, but to claim that MK1 at launch had one of the best offerings of single-player content in FG history is a gross misstatement, especially when its primary gameplay gimmick and single-player mode were and still are roundly rejected by the plurality of its player-base.

I know that there will be an essay written to reply back to this - don't bother because I won't be responding to it.
So you just gonna leave it here with no explanation or any way to debunk any of my points while you are not gonna respond? Very mature out of you.

But you know what? I'm not surprised. Since you are the same person that ruined the reputation of MK1 as a game by making an insanely over-dramatic video about a bug that was a lot smaller than it actually was while the MK community overall are very well known to be over-dramtatic themselves and both them as well as the rest of the FGC look for any excuse to bash MK games to the ground. Even when SFV and Tekken 7 were the current games for their respective IP's everyone in both the MK community and FGC tried to find any excuse to label MKX, IJ2 and MK11 as worse than SFV and Tekken 7, just because NRS/WB don't put the MK community and FGC on a pedestal like Capcom and Bandai Namco do, which is what leads to the SF and Tekken communities, and the FGC overall, suffering from a huge elitism problem.

Oh and MK11 gameplay was awesome as well, MK11 gameplay was a modern-day version of MK2 gameplay, that's why it was a very defensive-oriented game, compared to MK9, MKX and MK1 that were are more offense-based, although MK1 and MK9 are more balanced in that regard.

The only thing that is lacking in content here is your post, as it shows how wrong you are about both MK11 and MK1, and it matches your behavior perfectly, sadly.
 
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Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
I'm not in a bubble, and I'm not trying to bait anything, you are just mad that someone is telling the truth. It's your choice to interact or not. If you wanna discuss, that's fine, but if you wanna get angry and then claim I'm making you do that, then it's you just stripping all accountability from yourselves.
 

FrozenG3oX

<3 gimmicks
I'm not in a bubble, and I'm not trying to bait anything, you are just mad that someone is telling the truth. It's your choice to interact or not. If you wanna discuss, that's fine, but if you wanna get angry and then claim I'm making you do that, then it's you just stripping all accountability from yourselves.
I do want to discuss and I already did. In my opinion the singleplayer is not that good, its ok. So why do you keep saying thats the truth ? Just stop it, you sound silly.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
I do want to discuss and I already did. In my opinion the singleplayer is not that good, its ok. So why do you keep saying thats the truth ? Just stop it, you sound silly.
Except that me and you already stopped and then you came back by responding to my response to Oak, all because I said that what I'm saying is the truth, and now you basically telling me to shut up as if it's not super obvious. My comment to Oak wasn't towards anyone other than him, yet you are the one being so mad about it. So the only one sounds silly here is you.

So a friendly advice, you need to take a step back before derailing this thread. And no, that's not me telling you to stop or to shut up, just to be more mature about your next comment, if you're gonna respond.
 

Roy Arkon

I will leave my seal on you!
Sorry for the double post, but I do have to bump this thread for reference.

I saw a couple of people saying that we are gonna get or should get for Mortal Kombat 13 a social hub or stand-alone mini-games like in the 3D. But let me tell you right now, this is NOT gonna happen. NRS/WB clearly understand that their audience is mainly going for single player content against the CPU, with online and Ranked being secondary. This is in contrast to SF6 and Tekken 8, that even with all of the modes they have, they still are dedicated mainly for online. So a social hub is out of the question.

Same thing with stand-alone mini-games, NRS/WB are NOT gonna do them because they don't have enough replay value. All the people that wanna play online and then use these stand-alone mini games as a break from the online, you need to understand that this is not how NRS/WB are, and this is not what the vast majority want. They wanna have single player modes that can keep them occupied for months and years, and since modes such as Motor Kombat or Puzzle Kombat require you to make whole set of mechanics, character models and maps, making them up won't be worth the investment. SF6 and Tekken 8 stand-alone mini games (Extreme Battle and Tekken Ball) they are basically fighitng-game-engine mini-games just like the ones in MK1 Invasions and yet they are barely played by anyone, because there's nothing to grind for in them.

And this is why Invasions got to have all of the mini-games in it instead of having them separated from it, like I said in my main posts, so they can replace the online, and not just take a break from online, so now you can interact with these modes like Test Your Might and have actual long-term replay value.

So no, neither of these things are gonna happen.

Oh and one more thing, for those of you who think that SF6 World Tour actually does a good job in either being a single player mode or teaching the mechanics, just loo at this review from this guy who goes fully in-depth about a ton of stuff in the game, including World Tour, and it exposes it exactly as it is, an abomination.

Watch from 12:30 until 38:07 and you will see why.