Mighty No.9 - New Game from the Creators of Mega Man, Looks Amazing

[CrimsonShadow]

Just posting this here in case anyone hasn't seen it yet:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9?ref=live

Inafune is back, working on a classic-style side-scroller for PC. He has a lot of the old MM staff forking for him. Looks great imo, and I will definitely be backing this project. I've always been a sucker for great, colorful platforming/adventure action.

$20 will land you the digital version of the game, with more perks available as you contribute extra.

If their Kickstarter campaign reaches $2,5000,000, they will also develop console versions of the game.

 

[OutlawNightmare]

Already contributed to it, myself.

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[SZSR]

Wow the art style and design already look great, i'll definitely pick this up when it comes out (after it's finished of course ).

 

[Saint Op Omen]

While it does look good and should be great ...there is no reason that they should have to go to kickstarter ...they should get a pub or find a way to do it without abusing kickstarter....this is why I dislike kickstarter...

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[CrimsonShadow]

While it does look good and should be great ...there is no reason that they should have to go to kickstarter ...they should get a pub or find a way to do it without abusing kickstarter....this is why I dislike kickstarter...

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What's the difference to you as a buyer? With a publisher you'd probably end up paying more, it'd take longer to go to market and they'd have less control.

Also with a publisher they'd have a set budget, whereas with Kickstarter you can use any extra money to do cool things (see Skullgirls).

 

[Saint Op Omen]

What's the difference to you as a buyer? With a publisher you'd probably end up paying more, it'd take longer to go to market and they'd have less control.

As a buyer no difference ...which is what I will do buy it when it is done...as a invester which is what they are asking you to do on kickstarter there is a world of difference.
It was also developed as a way to help people who could not get funding another way and is now being flooded with people who can...

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[CrimsonShadow]

As a buyer no difference ...which is what I will do buy it when it is done...as a invester which is what they are asking you to do on kickstarter there is a world of difference.
It was also developed as a way to help people who could not get funding another way and is now being flooded with people who can...

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There are a lot of games that have been rushed, drastically altered, delayed endlessly, or never saw the light of day due to the actions of publishers. If you have a chance to cut out the middleman and go directly to the fans, it's probably worth it in some cases.

 

[Saint Op Omen]

There are a lot of games that have been rushed, drastically altered, delayed endlessly, or never saw the light of day due to the actions of publishers. If you have a chance to cut out the middleman and go directly to the fans, it's probably worth it in some cases.

Well then find a way to fund it yourself or offer a cut in profits for large investers and keep the product free for the rest (as they are already)...but to pay for someone to make the game with nothing in return is a bad buisness move for the people giving the $


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[CrimsonShadow]

Well then find a way to fund it yourself or offer a cut in profits for large investers and keep the product free for the rest (as they are already)...but to pay for someone to make the game with nothing in return is a bad buisness move for the people giving the $


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I think maybe you don't understand how Kickstarter works -- you are buying a copy of the game, with or without extras, when you sign on. You aren't 'paying with nothing in return'. It's a just a prepurchase, and you can choose if you want to pay the base price or cntribute more to get various addons.

 

[Saint Op Omen]

I think maybe you don't understand how Kickstarter works -- you are buying a copy of the game, with or without extras, when you sign on. You aren't 'paying with nothing in return'.

Same to you...In fact you only get the game if its made...in many cases its not...and you are paying with much less in return the you would if you were a invester...
Don't get me wrong its a great deal for the people making the game...its in their control and they have to pay nobody back and keep everything it makes...but for anyone that puts out more then the cost of the game itself and even then you are getting taken...

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[CrimsonShadow]

Same to you...In fact you only get the game if its made...in many cases its not...and you are paying with much less in return the you would if you were a invester...
Don't get me wrong its a great deal for the people making the game...its in their control and they have to pay nobody back and keep everything it makes...but for anyone that puts out more then the cost of the game itself and even then you are getting taken...

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I've never paid for anything on Kickstarter that I didn't receive.. Have you?

 

[Saint Op Omen]

I've never paid for anything on Kickstarter that I didn't receive.. Have you?

I know of very anger people who did...myself I am to busy funding my own endevers....but yes people have failed

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[CrimsonShadow]

I know of very anger people who did...myself I am to busy funding my own endevers....but yes people have failed

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The couple of games I'm aware of that didn't make it offered refunds to the backers; which are you talking about?

 

[Saint Op Omen]

The couple of games I'm aware of that didn't make it offered refunds to the backers; which are you talking about?

Yeah some did give refunds when they didn't raise enough and that's great...they don't have to...also some have met their goal and spent the $ & didn't get to finish the project...just saying I don't support it due to it being a flawed model that does not favor investers ....

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[GUNZaBLAZE]

If their Kickstarter campaign reaches $2,5000,000, they will also develop console versions of the game.

How much?? lol

 

[AK Black Preon]

While it does look good and should be great ...there is no reason that they should have to go to kickstarter ...they should get a pub or find a way to do it without abusing kickstarter....this is why I dislike kickstarter...

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Well this guy was affiliated with Capcom in his prior works so I could understand why he'd want complete control. Capcom has a history of doing things not best for the consumer.

And as someone said earlier with a publisher you can easily have your vision turned into something far off from your ideal and initial goals. Now yes there are some shady kickstarters much like those idiotic brony people who donated roughly 5,ooo bucks in hopes that this guy will buy and island and construct a replica setting of the MLP show and call it Brony island....

(here is a link to my friend ranting about it:

) Just in case you don't believe me.

But to not trust a kickstarter due to some bad returns isn't a good idea. That's like a person deciding to never trust a black person again because ONE decided to be ignorant and steal from him. Its much more like seeing a bum down on his luck and taking the chance on giving him a few dollars so he can get some food. Then you see him a bit later in the day snorting cocaine. Now because you see one bum pretty much killing himself off, will you no longer donate to less fortunate human beings because of one dumb idiot? I'm not saying you have to donate to a kickstarter if you don't want to, its your hard earned cast and you support what you want. You might have to do some investigating to find out what is trustworthy and what isn't.

Also there is more than likely a reason he doesn't want a publisher. Given his reputation he could've easily had this game picked up by someone believe me on that. He's worked on some heavy hitting games. Dead Rising, Megaman, and Onimusha (as he said in video).

Hell he was the damn former head of Research & Development, as well as Online Business and Global Head of Production at Capcom. So he has the credibility at this point for people to trust in a faithful Kickstarter. Its not like he's one of the million randoms who just toss up some old dandruff-style B.S. for a quick scam cash in. Also with many of the donations. You already get a copy of the game and you will be featured in the credits *for less than a price of any retail game*

Hell if I may be so bold it still has better consumer relations behind this project than the new Killer Instinct.

 

[Saint Op Omen]

Well this guy was affiliated with Capcom in his prior works so I could understand why he'd want complete control. Capcom has a history of doing things not best for the consumer.

And as someone said earlier with a publisher you can easily have your vision turned into something far off from your ideal and initial goals. Now yes there are some shady kickstarters much like those idiotic brony people who donated roughly 5,ooo bucks in hopes that this guy will buy and island and construct a replica setting of the MLP show and call it Brony island....

(here is a link to my friend ranting about it:

) Just in case you don't believe me.

But to not trust a kickstarter due to some bad returns isn't a good idea. That's like a person deciding to never trust a black person again because ONE decided to be ignorant and steal from him. Its much more like seeing a bum down on his luck and taking the chance on giving him a few dollars so he can get some food. Then you see him a bit later in the day snorting cocaine. Now because you see one bum pretty much killing himself off, will you no longer donate to less fortunate human beings because of one dumb idiot? I'm not saying you have to donate to a kickstarter if you don't want to, its your hard earned cast and you support what you want. You might have to do some investigating to find out what is trustworthy and what isn't.

Also there is more than likely a reason he doesn't want a publisher. Given his reputation he could've easily had this game picked up by someone believe me on that. He's worked on some heavy hitting games. Dead Rising, Megaman, and Onimusha (as he said in video).

Hell he was the damn former head of Research & Development, as well as Online Business and Global Head of Production at Capcom. So he has the credibility at this point for people to trust in a faithful Kickstarter. Its not like he's one of the million randoms who just toss up some old dandruff-style B.S. for a quick scam cash in. Also with many of the donations. You already get a copy of the game and you will be featured in the credits *for less than a price of any retail game*

Hell if I may be so bold it still has better consumer relations behind this project than the new Killer Instinct.

Point is as a buisness model Kickstarter is made to get $ and make $ off people with no repercussions if anything goes wrong or never happens ....if I could by 5% of the product and invest in it then fine ...yes getting in the credits is fine if your a giant fan boy but I would rather see a return on investments ...if you fund the next "angry birds" or "farmville" type hit ...if they make tons of $ and you get a free game out of it...you are getting taken...that's why I won't invest in it...
& he probably does not want a pub because he wants to make all the $ off of it ...the guy is not poor & could fund this himself if he wanted to...he wants the $ up front...
Nothing against him game looks great I would buy it right away and suport it....I would buy a stake in it given his track record...but I don't like kickstarter and won't throw $ blindly at people for no return....
People look at it as buying a product but its not that...you are acting as a bank as, a pub, a invester and are getting nothing for it....

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[Chuckychuck]

He's even bringing the BIG BOOTS back. Mighty No.9 will be awesome.

 

[AK Black Preon]

Point is as a buisness model Kickstarter is made to get $ and make $ off people with no repercussions if anything goes wrong or never happens ....if I could by 5% of the product and invest in it then fine ...yes getting in the credits is fine if your a giant fan boy but I would rather see a return on investments ...if you fund the next "angry birds" or "farmville" type hit ...if they make tons of $ and you get a free game out of it...you are getting taken...that's why I won't invest in it...
& he probably does not want a pub because he wants to make all the $ off of it ...the guy is not poor & could fund this himself if he wanted to...he wants the $ up front...
Nothing against him game looks great I would buy it right away and suport it....I would buy a stake in it given his track record...but I don't like kickstarter and won't throw $ blindly at people for no return....
People look at it as buying a product but its not that...you are acting as a bank as, a pub, a invester and are getting nothing for it....

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Well if he's heading this project he has to create the game and pay his employee's (aka) co-developers. There is maintenance costs to this that stem from outside the games tech and things of that nature. However also in Kickstart format you helped with some costs but, you didn't help develop the game, implement code, or any such thing. People have been waiting on a Megaman X title for years and this might be the best they'll get and people who are passionate about it are going to donate. Also people who are passionate aren't always lumped into this fanboy category. Fanboy's wouldn't have any logical statements to defend what they like nor why they are hard pressed to defend it. Usually that behavior stems from them having no idea what they are talking about.

However if you donate 20$ you are still getting the game once its finished and you say you're being ripped off.

Well if thats a rip off you'd have to agree with me when I say Killer Instinct's next installment is a GIGANTIC rip off. Which I personally do believe. However on that note the issue may be that they want the money up front. Well that's pretty much what the Xbox One wants since it has 81 features behind a pay wall to even utilize.

 

[Saint Op Omen]

Well if he's heading this project he has to create the game and pay his employee's (aka) co-developers. There is maintenance costs to this that stem from outside the games tech and things of that nature. However also in Kickstart format you helped with some costs but, you didn't help develop the game, implement code, or any such thing. People have been waiting on a Megaman X title for years and this might be the best they'll get and people who are passionate about it are going to donate. Also people who are passionate aren't always lumped into this fanboy category. Fanboy's wouldn't have any logical statements to defend what they like nor why they are hard pressed to defend it. Usually that behavior stems from them having no idea what they are talking about.

However if you donate 20$ you are still getting the game once its finished and you say you're being ripped off.

Well if thats a rip off you'd have to agree with me when I say Killer Instinct's next installment is a GIGANTIC rip off. Which I personally do believe. However on that note the issue may be that they want the money up front. Well that's pretty much what the Xbox One wants since it has 81 features behind a pay wall to even utilize.

Investers ussually just do that...they invest they don't make anything....he is saying he does not have the $ for it (which is most likely not true, he just does not want to spend $ on it without a return hense asking for the $ upfront) & asking you give it to him so he can make the game... yes if you just want then game for $20 and that's all fine then...if the game goes on to make millions of $s and you in vested a few hundred into it you should get more $ in return its how buisness works....kickstarted as a buisness model takes advantage of people who do not understand buisness...
I like the way this game looks....I just don't like kickstarter...as a whole...

Anyway yes it has little to do with this but I am very disapointed in KI and in MS this time around....

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[AK Black Preon]

Investers ussually just do that...they invest they don't make anything....he is saying he does not have the $ for it (which is most likely not true, he just does not want to spend $ on it without a return hense asking for the $ upfront) & asking you give it to him so he can make the game... yes if you just want then game for $20 and that's all fine then...if the game goes on to make millions of $s and you in vested a few hundred into it you should get more $ in return its how buisness works....kickstarted as a buisness model takes advantage of people who do not understand buisness...
I like the way this game looks....I just don't like kickstarter...as a whole...

Anyway yes it has little to do with this but I am very disapointed in KI and in MS this time around....

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I can at least understand where you're coming from with the upfront thing. But other than that I don't feel the hate. None of the three Kickstarters I've backed had done anything wrong. If its backing a game. I would only donate an amount that suits the purchase of the game. Now for those people donating more than 80$ all the way up into the 2500 range. Yes I believe that they should get something more, but people who can sling around that kind of cash must not be too bothered by it and must have the money to hold it up. But most of these AAA titles like you Call of Duties just keep pumping their consumers wallets for the same experience with a small graphical update. So does Madden (any sports game really), half of Capcom's (Modern Library) . But at the (20-60 bucx) range values, I'd only say it was a complete rip-off if after you purchased it, you had to STILL go out and buy it too.

 

[ryublaze]

*jizz*

 

[Saint Op Omen]

I can at least understand where you're coming from with the upfront thing. But other than that I don't feel the hate. None of the three Kickstarters I've backed had done anything wrong. If its backing a game. I would only donate an amount that suits the purchase of the game. Now for those people donating more than 80$ all the way up into the 2500 range. Yes I believe that they should get something more, but people who can sling around that kind of cash must not be too bothered by it and must have the money to hold it up. But most of these AAA titles like you Call of Duties just keep pumping their consumers wallets for the same experience with a small graphical update. So does Madden (any sports game really), half of Capcom's (Modern Library) . But at the (20-60 bucx) range values, I'd only say it was a complete rip-off if after you purchased it, you had to STILL go out and buy it too.

I think it can be used as a good model if done differently....maybe as a way to fund more dlc or something...but people complain that $5 for one character is a rip off but at least they are asking for the $ on something they already made...
Coming for a buisness standpoint it just don't work that way....
as a fan of something fine I guess if you okay with it...but from the creator side they are using you to make something they can't get the $ for or do not want to pay for (talking about the major indies like this and double fine) but they tend to get a pass because they are not EA ...but really its very similar...

Capcom does not see the $ in making a new Mega Man...I don't know why...so we get this...and he does not see the $ in it so he wants to see if he can get the $ first...he is basically saying that everyone wants a new MM so bad fine put your $ where your mouth is...
I guess if I was in his place it would be great but from our side its easy for people to take advantage...


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[AK Black Preon]

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To be fair EVERY business / corporation takes advantage of their consumers to make money. That is the business nature. Also Microsoft is publishing this new KI while DH develops it. However to even utilize its main functionalists, you have to pay Microsoft $60 for Xbox Live. In which they will still make money off of your purchase on the game itself. So you pay Microsoft for the access to the games functionality, then again for the game's content (20-40 bucks) depending on the package you chose. While DH gets their cut, but Microsoft dictates what happens and when for the most part in terms of releasing and pricing. So either way regardless of the business model it always bases itself on what makes more money for the Project and on less common occasions is it Pro-consumer. Each has their draw backs and plusses sure.

However for a game to be done right (since this seems to be a visonary) type project. You gotta do it yourself and sure if people kick in you can say its taking advantage of them but, its not like he's got a gun to your head telling you its a must. Nor the amount you should donate. But we'll see how it unfolds in the end.

 

[Saint Op Omen]

To be fair EVERY business / corporation takes advantage of their consumers to make money. That is the business nature. Also Microsoft is publishing this new KI while DH develops it. However to even utilize its main functionalists, you have to pay Microsoft $60 for Xbox Live. In which they will still make money off of your purchase on the game itself. So you pay Microsoft for the access to the games functionality, then again for the game's content (20-40 bucks) depending on the package you chose. While DH gets their cut, but Microsoft dictates what happens and when for the most part in terms of releasing and pricing. Each has their draw backs and plusses sure.

However for a game to be done right (since this seems to be a visonary) type project. You gotta do it yourself and sure if people kick in you can say its taking advantage of them but, its not like he's got a gun to your head telling you its a must. Nor the amount you should donate. But we'll see how it unfolds in the end.

Yeah I agree and its a matter of if you are okay with it or not...all I said is that I am not and I dont like investing in Kickstarters if the people doing it could clearly do it in other more traditional ways...
Also yes KI in my opinion is a rushed hot mess and calling it free to play is a joke as you get to play less then most demos for free...

But Mighty #9 looks great and I will gladly buy it if it gets finished and if not I will tell all the people begging for more MM to shut up because this is their chance...so maybe kickstarter is good for that...