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Microsoft Respond To Concerns Over Xbox1

Ilthuain

Lost in a labyrinth of egoism
Tell your friend who has 1.5Mbps Internet that you want to come over and play one of your games, but to start downloading the night before because it will be 10-15GB... take away literally all of his bandwidth so he can't play online.

You can say that he should upgrade his Internet, but welcome to the real world.

How often can you change what 10 accounts are linked? I don't know about you, but there is no fucking way even my most trusted friend is going to have my account information on his system. He can buy his own games or borrow one of my PS4 games.

I imagine your "family" wouldn't store your account/payment info. That would be a nightmare. The system probably has permission regarding game loans and whatnot.

Anyway, bring your disk and login on your account from his xbox.

Problem solved.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
"For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said."

Huh. That might be a little more difficult if you have to trade the physical media.

It looks like there are some benefits to digital distribution after all. For one thing, it saves fuel.

Personally, if I was a console player, I think it's pretty darn cool that I can visit my friends in Seattle and show them the games I enjoy without having to pack all the physical media. Or they could just look at my library from their couch while I'm still here in San Francisco, browse what I have and play whatever... Cool stuff.

What I also find really cool, is the ability to lend games.

I'll give you an example. A friend lent me arkham asylum a while ago, it was after arkam city was out. Now, I loved the game so much, that after I returned it to him (something you can't do on xbone), I bought arkham asylum, and then arkham city.

2 games were bought by me, because of game lending. Something that would not have happened, with xbox.
 

Konqrr

MK11 Kabal = MK9 Kitana
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/

"You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area."
So, my 10 friends are sharing my games... and when I get home from work and want to go play, one of them is already playing so I can't. I have to call him up and IF he answers his phone, I can tell him to turn my shit off so I can play MY game... gtfo.

The entire X1 architecture is flawed and retarded.
 

xWEBSx

Too old for this Shit
What I also find really cool, is the ability to lend games.

I'll give you an example. A friend lent me arkham asylum a while ago, it was after arkam city was out. Now, I loved the game so much, that after I returned it to him (something you can't do on xbone), I bought arkham asylum, and then arkham city.

2 games were bought by me, because of game lending. Something that would not have happened, with xbox.
*Boggle*

So you can't play your friends digital Arkham City from his XB1... Decide I LOVE THIS GAME!! And purchase both yourself?
I just don't get it.....

Your intellect is truly dizzying Jared
 

xWEBSx

Too old for this Shit
So, my 10 friends are sharing my games... and when I get home from work and want to go play, one of them is already playing so I can't. I have to call him up and IF he answers his phone, I can tell him to turn my shit off so I can play MY game... gtfo.

The entire X1 architecture is flawed and retarded.
Ummmm....
 

Ilthuain

Lost in a labyrinth of egoism
So, my 10 friends are sharing my games... and when I get home from work and want to go play, one of them is already playing so I can't. I have to call him up and IF he answers his phone, I can tell him to turn my shit off so I can play MY game... gtfo.

The entire X1 architecture is flawed and retarded.

As I said, there will likely be permissions that you can set. At the very least the rights holder will have priority.

They haven't released the specifics yet of how you set your list, how often you can change it, how permissions will operate, etc.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
As I said, there will likely be permissions that you can set. At the very least the rights holder will have priority.

They haven't released the specifics yet of how you set your list, how often you can change it, how permissions will operate, etc.

And yet you act like you know everything...
 

Saint Op Omen

Savagely beating his super-ego with his id...
As I said, there will likely be permissions that you can set. At the very least the rights holder will have priority.

They haven't released the specifics yet of how you set your list, how often you can change it, how permissions will operate, etc.
This whole thing sounds like it will be ending some dudebro friendships....:(

Sent under duress.
 

Ilthuain

Lost in a labyrinth of egoism
And yet you act like you know everything...

Jered... ugh.

I'm researching, Jered. I'm reading things, I'm not assuming that MS will intentionally do everything in their power to make their system fail, and I'm keeping an open mind.

It astonishes me that you could even type that without feeling shame, after you have exhibited your pervasive and crippling allergy to gathering information before coming to a conclusion. From your wild assertions about "Dudebros", assumptions that nobody is interested in the Kinect, pigeonholing of the gamer demographic... you have consistently and without fail worked from your conclusion rather than from information.

I do not know everything, but I am interested in learning. This appears to be an unusual stance in this conversation, where it is expected that people stick to their tribes regardless of the data that is presented.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Jered... ugh.

I'm researching, Jered. I'm reading things, I'm not assuming that MS will intentionally do everything in their power to make their system fail, and I'm keeping an open mind.

It astonishes me that you could even type that without feeling shame, after you have exhibited your pervasive and crippling allergy to gathering information before coming to a conclusion. From your wild assertions about "Dudebros", assumptions that nobody is interested in the Kinect, pigeonholing of the gamer demographic... you have consistently and without fail worked from your conclusion rather than from information.

I do not know everything, but I am interested in learning. This appears to be an unusual stance in this conversation, where it is expected that people stick to their tribes regardless of the data that is presented.

Did you see their pricing details?
Hardware specs?
DRM policy?
Used game policy?
The video I linked in the OP?
The places where games will work?

You think they aren't intentionally fucking up? Maybe not intentionally. But its been a PR disaster which I doubt they will recover from.
 

xWEBSx

Too old for this Shit
Did you see their pricing details?
Hardware specs?
DRM policy?
Used game policy?
The video I linked in the OP?
The places where games will work?

You think they aren't intentionally fucking up? Maybe not intentionally. But its been a PR disaster which I doubt they will recover from.
Microsoft is very young.. Has only been around what? A year or two at least.. With no solid foundation/advisors and TIME to research, think and talk about.. They clearly put this all together in under a day (but thats a rookie mistake) You are right Jared... XB1 MAY put Microsoft under..Forever!
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Microsoft is very young.. Has only been around what? A year or two at least.. With no solid foundation/advisors and TIME to research, think and talk about.. They clearly put this all together in under a day (but thats a rookie mistake) You are right Jared... XB1 MAY put Microsoft under..Forever!

They have 2 consoles of experience. 360 was a success, relatively speaking.

Look on the internet, look at reality, and realize that the competition simply is better in every conceivable way, save for maybe your personal opinion on exclusives. I personally think that PS4s exclusives are better, but that is opinion.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
So I'm reading about why Xbox is done from a Sony blog?

Just like I take meat advice & recommendation from a Vegan blog...

Its a joke... it used to link to the amazon page to pre order PS4.
 

DuBBer Kiir

Apprentice
So I'm reading about why Xbox is done from a Sony blog?

Just like I take meat advice & recommendation from a Vegan blog...
Lol chill it was just a joke, I could give two shits about this whole debacle. Thus far there's only like two Xbox exclusives I will regret not having. Funny thing is I've been an Xbox fanboy since the OG XBOX 1, but I just can't believe the direction they're heading with this new console. I understand that times are changing and the digital information paradigm is shifting radically, but to intentionally pander only to those with big wallets is just messed up. IMO
 

BigC

I'm great in my world.
Yes Don, certainly after all this, your companies prediction of '1 billion XB1's sold' will surely happen!
 

xWEBSx

Too old for this Shit
Lol chill it was just a joke, I could give two shits about this whole debacle. Thus far there's only like two Xbox exclusives I will regret not having. Funny thing is I've been an Xbox fanboy since the OG XBOX 1, but I just can't believe the direction they're heading with this new console. I understand that times are changing and the digital information paradigm is shifting radically, but to intentionally pander only to those with big wallets is just messed up. IMO
Oh I'm very chill.. Don't know what is a joke or what is serious with all the rhetoric and misinformation flying around.. Already got my head down and awaiting both systems to launch before making a decision... No... EDUCATED decision.. Hate having the bullshit so heavy it hits me while I'm waiting out the storm
 

DuBBer Kiir

Apprentice
Oh I'm very chill.. Don't know what is a joke or what is serious with all the rhetoric and misinformation flying around.. Already got my head down and awaiting both systems to launch before making a decision... No... EDUCATED decision.. Hate having the bullshit so heavy it hits me while I'm waiting out the storm
Truth is buy whatever you want, there's no pressure. Hell buy both of 'em lol. I just have issues with all these restrictions being placed upon the consumer.
 
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AoK Ryan

Guest
How 'bout you wait until the console is actually released before you complain about it. nothing is set in stone right now. So pump your brakes kid, please.