I wouldn’t say it hardly does anything. She’s constantly in the air, which means no zoning. She completely avoids drills and Yoshi, which are 2 of Ivy’s strongest tools. Her oki isn’t a bill against Ivy. Yea, her dp is a bad wakeup but let’s not forget about Ivy’s lol. The same way Ivy can use oki against cheetah is the same way cheetah can use oki against Ivy, and cheetah’s oki is better.
What plus frames? The biggest plus frames she has are +2 frame traps, and those are from 2(which is a high), 3(which is a 19(?)f mid), and f3(good but can be scouted). After that, her only plus frames are +1. Even after +2, she can’t follow up with ANYTHING except a d1, which is 7f so you can definitely disrespect. Ivy does have the better footsies tho. I’ll give you that. And Ivy is bomb in the corner but so is cheetah. If cheetah gets her in the corner, it’s almost a GG. Ivy doesn’t have the tools to get out the corner at all.
O trust me, I know about j2 lol. I use that a lot. It’s a really good air to air and it works somewhat with cheetah. I’m pretty sure dive beats it tho most of the time
I’m not trying to sound like a dick when I say this, but do you play any of the characters? And if you do, do you play any good ones in the MU? I’m not saying cheetah bodies her and I’m not saying she’s helpless. I’m just saying cheetah does have the advantage in most cases.
If you have PS4, I’ll play you if you wanna run it