General/Other - Hish-Qu-Ten low pew pew is punishable

[Barrogh]

cassie lao reptile shinnock kano

Can you just frame it with 6f normals? Since "6f" means that 6th is already active, it should be able to connect, theoretically. Is that incorrect?

 

[st9rm]

It is at least -7 but with such minimal block stun you almost have to input a reversal the same frame the stupid laser hits which is why you don't see it get punished regularly.

100% agree
hqt pred is stupid

 

[Invincible Salads]

i believe its still not really known, but i could be real. -7 is really safe

Edit:wrong not real

Is this the real life? or is it fantasy? caught in a landslide of predators legacy!

 

[ESP-_BLACK]

Can you just frame it with 6f normals? Since "6f" means that 6th is already active, it should be able to connect, theoretically. Is that incorrect?

yes you can, but them the chars you can punish by reversal off the top of my head

 

[jokey77]

100% agree
hqt pred is stupid

... go throw some ex-kunai setups!

 

[SaSSolino]

List the 3-4 characters that can "punish" that, mofo. I never thought I'd see HQT get downplayed. smh

Yomi Tier List bruh?

 

[jokey77]

Kung Lao can consistantly punish it in practise mode, if you switch him to "reversal".

Thus -7 should be correct, but you guys need to level up!

 

[st9rm]

... go throw some ex-kunai setups!

i will, don't worry
it's always a pleasure hitting the setups vs pewpewpew spammers

 

[jokey77]

i will, don't worry
it's always a pleasure hitting the setups vs pewpewpew spammers

... as if you would notice any difference. It is well-known that Takeda plays the same against any other character. However this whole discussion feels like one that should be held in the Takeda forums, not here!

 

[st9rm]

... as if you would notice any difference. It is well-known that Takeda plays the same against any other character. However this whole discussion feels like one that should be held in the Takeda forums, not here!

absolutely, takeda is such a cheap autopilot char
that's why you see takeda's win every tournament/esl weekly there is

 

[thlityoursloat]

Braindeadator has zoning that's ridiculous even by Injustice standards. Low laser should be -15 to -20, Liu Kang's low fireball is -20 and Kano's mid knives are -11, despite being much poorer zoning tools.

 

[shura30]

-7 is safe against most of the cast.

also free 7ish frames 50/50 from the rest of the cast

 

[jokey77]

absolutely, takeda is such a cheap autopilot char
that's why you see takeda's win every tournament/esl weekly there is

In fact there are plenty of successful Takedas lately. For sure there are more Takedas than Predators. What does this tell you?

 

[GOOD DRAGON]

erm ever heard of just grabbing him after his -7 laser on block? That is technically a punish soo not sure why anyone hasn't already grasped that concept.

 

[Barrogh]

erm ever heard of just grabbing him after his -7 laser on block? That is technically a punish soo not sure why anyone hasn't already grasped that concept.

Actually, technically, that isn't. But who said you can't go for a mixup when you are +7?

 

[GOOD DRAGON]

Actually, technically, that isn't. But who said you can't go for a mixup when you are +7?

Well the reason i said technically is because if the pred player knows what they're doing they should be blocking after a low pew on block meaning unless they know its coming they have set themselves up to lose 12% health if you grab them. Of course being +7 means its your turn to press buttons- but saying that im not mentioning any names but certain fraudulent pred like to NJP after -7. They could also back dash i guess.

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

And range? It takes some frames to travel. Remember Kitana's fan is -8 at point blank but F112 fan makes it -7 (randomly -6 based on hitbox and ducking/standing block. Tested on Buzzsaw)

 

[Invincible Salads]

i'm not sure if im real