Li Mei - Kameo Choice Discussion Thread

[rifraf]

Janet quite easily punished with ex db3 though

Really? I haven't played much with her tbh and it seemed as difficult as Scorpion to me but I could be wrong.

-100hp is indeed a hefty price to pay, but he does fit her very well. I'm sure people will come up with interesting stuff with this team.

 

[Pan1cMode]

I got my hands on Mavado…

124~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (383.33)
124~db2, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(474.98)
124~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (459.61)
124~bf1(ex), 43~db2, f+k, ji134 (444.65)

4312, f+k, b3, 21~bf4 (337.78)
4312, f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4(422.90)
4312~bf1(ex), 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (456.48)
4312, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(452.23)
4312, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (514.43)


214, f+k, ji134~db4 (352.52)
214, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(460.50)
214, f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4(429.58)
214, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (525.93)

iadb4(ex), u+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (452.39)
iadb4(ex), u+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (517.31)

db3(ex), f+k, b3, 21~bf4(355.95)
db3(ex), f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4 (467.77)
db3(ex), f+k, 34~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (506)
db3(ex), f+k, 34~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4
(587.09)

Throw, neutral kameo, ji212~db4(235.23)
Throw, neutral kameo, 21~bf1(ex), ji212~db4 (278.41)

Her damage with mavado is on par with scorpion, khameleon, and Janet. The plus frames from b+K and d+k are also really strong in her kit. I dunno if he’s better than Janet, but he’s certainly a strong contender.

 

[chrisisnice]

I got my hands on Mavado…

124~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (383.33)
124~db2, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(474.98)
124~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (459.61)
124~bf1(ex), 43~db2, f+k, ji134 (444.65)

4312, f+k, b3, 21~bf4 (337.78)
4312, f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4(422.90)
4312~bf1(ex), 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (456.48)
4312, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(452.23)
4312, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (514.43)
4312(520.91)

213, f+k, ji134~db4 (352.52)
213, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(460.50)
213, f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4(429.58)
213, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (525.93)

iadb4(ex), u+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (452.39)
iadb4(ex), u+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (517.31)

db3(ex), f+k, b3, 21~bf4(355.95)
db3(ex), 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4 (467.77)
db3(ex), f+k, 34~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (506)
db3(ex), f+k, 34~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4
(587.09)

Throw, neutral kameo, ji212~db4(235.23)
Throw, neutral kameo, 21~bf1(ex), ji212~db4 (278.41)

Her damage with mavado is on par with scorpion, khameleon, and Janet. The plus frames from b+K and d+k are also really strong in her kit. I dunno if he’s better than Janet, but he’s certainly a strong contender.

who do you think has the most utility so far?

 

[rifraf]

124~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (383.33) 350.62
124~db2, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(474.98) 407.87
124~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (459.61) 414.94
124~bf1(ex), 43~db2, f+k, ji134 (444.65) 390.55

4312, f+k, b3, 21~bf4 (337.78) 314.23
4312, f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4(422.90) 386.47
4312~bf1(ex), 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (456.48) 428.52
4312, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(452.23) 388.8
4312, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (514.43) 432.91
4312(520.91)

214, f+k, ji134~db4 (352.52) 326.33
214, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4(460.50) 393.68
214, f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4(429.58) 391.23
214, f+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (525.93) 429.58

iadb4(ex), u+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (452.39) 410.34
iadb4(ex), u+k, 43~db2, f+k, ji212~bf1(ex), ji13~db4 (517.31) 450.12

db3(ex), f+k, b3, 21~bf4(355.95) 326.12
db3(ex), f+k, 21~bf1(ex), ji134~db4 (467.77) 420.28
db3(ex), f+k, 34~db2, f+k, ji134~db4 (506) 423.32

Hey man, I was doing some labing today and I was trying some of your combos and for some reason I'm getting very different dmg numbers than you. No big deal, just fyi.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Hey man, I was doing some labing today and I was trying some of your combos and for some reason I'm getting very different dmg numbers than you. No big deal, just fyi.

Are you using the f+k or the u+k? The u+k scales a whole bunch more.

EDIT:
Unless there was a hotfix applied?
I won’t be able to get on today, but tomorrow I’ll record some of the combos and post them. I’m pretty sure the damage numbers are correct.

 

[Pan1cMode]

who do you think has the most utility so far?

I haven’t had enough time with Mavado yet.
Certainly I think he and Janet are probably on par with each other. Might be a matter of personal preference which one to use.
Mavado has better conversions from multiple strings, and better plus frames. Also has a more consistent overhead conversion.
Janet has more available throw conversion (only costs one kameo bar), better corner carry, better reversal (nutpunch is actually pretty decent), and no health penalty.

Khameleon also remains a strong option.

I’d say any of those three are probably her best picks, with sub zero and Kung Lao being niche picks for specific match ups.

I think scorpion is outclassed by Janet/Mavado and don’t see a specific reason to use him.

 

[rifraf]

Are you using the f+k or the u+k? The u+k scales a whole bunch more.

EDIT:
Unless there was a hotfix applied?
I won’t be able to get on today, but tomorrow I’ll record some of the combos and post them. I’m pretty sure the damage numbers are correct.

I'm using f+K. All your combos work just fine btw, it's only the dmg that's off. I highlighted the ones I tried in my previous post in orange.

 

[Pan1cMode]

I'm using f+K. All your combos work just fine btw, it's only the dmg that's off. I highlighted the ones I tried in my previous post in orange.

I’ve taken some videos. Is there perhaps a damage glitch going on?

 

[rifraf]

I’ve taken some videos. Is there perhaps a damage glitch going on?

Do my eyes trick me, or this game's a bit funny?

 

[Pan1cMode]

Do my eyes trick me, or this game's a bit funny?

That’s so weird…

It’s like the scaling between forward and up kameo is the same. Has there been a hotfix or patch released?

 

[rifraf]

That’s so weird…

It’s like the scaling between forward and up kameo is the same. Has there been a hotfix or patch released?

So you're also seeing it, I'm not crazy

No, there's no hotfix as far as I'm aware. I've been doing exactly the same damage since the Mavado patch launched. Since this seems like a bug of some sort, I'll go ahead and report it. What platform are you playing on? I'm on PS5.

 

[Pan1cMode]

So you're also seeing it, I'm not crazy

No, there's no hotfix as far as I'm aware. I've been doing exactly the same damage since the Mavado patch launched. Since this seems like a bug of some sort, I'll go ahead and report it. What platform are you playing on? I'm on PS5.

I’m on PS5 as well. So odd…

 

[rifraf]

I’m on PS5 as well. So odd…

Just for some clarification. Did you recorded these videos within the last 24 hours? I recorded mine like a couple hours ago. I'm asking this to rule out a hotfix possibility.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Just for some clarification. Did you recorded these videos within the last 24 hours? I recorded mine like a couple hours ago. I'm asking this to rule out a hotfix possibility.

I recorded them about 5mins before I posted them.

Interestingly enough, I’m now doing the nerfed damage, which makes me think there must’ve been a hotfix applied.

Very odd.

 

[PrinceGoro]

I recorded them about 5mins before I posted them.

Interestingly enough, I’m now doing the nerfed damage, which makes me think there must’ve been a hotfix applied.

Very odd.

On steam PC if in offline mode,mavado kameo has less scaling and in turn the combos do more damage.Connecting to the server makes mavado have more scaling,i guess the intended one.

Were you by any chance in offline mode on your ps5 while you were labbing these combos?

 

[Pan1cMode]

On steam PC if in offline mode,mavado kameo has less scaling and in turn the combos do more damage.Connecting to the server makes mavado have more scaling,i guess the intended one.

Were you by any chance in offline mode on your ps5 while you were labbing these combos?

Nah I wasn’t (I had connected to kombat league) but evidently it’s just a hotfix that’s been applied.

I get why though, that damage was a tad redic haha.

 

[PrinceGoro]

Nah I wasn’t (I had connected to kombat league) but evidently it’s just a hotfix that’s been applied.

I get why though, that damage was a tad redic haha.

Hmm maybe the offline pc damage was what you had on ps5 normally and it was then additionally stealth fixed,cause yeah as i was labbing offline the damge i was doing was a bit apsurd.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Li Mei (and by extension I think pretty much everyone) gets an untechble grab. Jut press neutral kameo the exact same time you press grab. If they don’t tech they’ll get launched for 20%, if they tech they’ll get launched for 11%. If they neutral duck they need to punish with something that advances quickly, or just block. Either way, I like it to end rounds

 

[Wigy]

F3 could be good paired with D+K to maintain pressure. When you condition them to block the low you can hit with overhead.

Also got an easy FB combo confirm that hits about 50% midscreen 1 bar 1 kameo

 

[Wigy]

Also im using mine to cover my ass on blocked ex db4 when you’re playing against someone who flawless blocks it.

you have plenty of time to hitconfirm

 

[Pan1cMode]

F3 could be good paired with D+K to maintain pressure. When you condition them to block the low you can hit with overhead.

Also got an easy FB combo confirm that hits about 50% midscreen 1 bar 1 kameo

For fatal blow I’ve been using:

starter~bf1(ex), 21~db2, u+k, db2, stance+block

Works off 124, 12, 4312, 21

 

[Wigy]

For fatal blow I’ve been using:

starter~bf1(ex), 21~db2, u+k, db2, stance+block

Works off 124, 12, 4312, 21

Yep yours does more!

im having more issues with mavado coming out that any other kameo, feels like you really need to put it cleaaaan after the lantern not just dial it

edit/ for anyone else having issues, you cannot buffer the up input early. Figured out the issue

 

[Pan1cMode]

Yep yours does more!

im having more issues with mavado coming out that any other kameo, feels like you really need to put it cleaaaan after the lantern not just dial it

edit/ for anyone else having issues, you cannot buffer the up input early. Figured out the issue

Yeah there’s no buffer on the up input, but you can buffer the f+ k input for some reason.

 

[Wigy]

Yeah there’s no buffer on the up input, but you can buffer the f+ k input for some reason.

the U+K is super jank. Timing is very specific and height dependent.

 

[Wigy]

OKI setup:

launcher- j13 instant exdb4- D+K
If they delay wakeup, you can jail 124 from D+K advantage.

if they wakeup you armour break them

If you do it with full kameo bar you can hitconfirm ex db4 and cover your ass with mine.

if you wanna do it yolo at the end a combo even if you dont have mine available: