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Whenever I run sets with him he mostly uses Aftershock so I'd assume it was that variation you faced when you came, though I can't remember for sure. Yall had some good matches from what I saw.
Whenever I run sets with him he mostly uses Aftershock so I'd assume it was that variation you faced when you came, though I can't remember for sure. Yall had some good matches from what I saw.
I just scrolled through the Kotal forum section and looked at names that popped up that I remember seeing around. Well if you're a Tremor mind giving some insight on this MU from Tremor's side. I don't think there is anything Tremor really brings in his favor that Kotal has to worry about besides matching him in damage.
The best Tremors keep the lava overhead in play at every opportunity. That keeps KK's damage output from dominating the matchup.
Yeah they were pretty fun. He ran both variations. Surprisingly no crystal which in hindsight was probably the best choice for the Kotal matchup. It seemed difficult for him to get much started for the reasons I stated above but it only takes one mistake for Tremor to get his momentum rolling. That's why I think it's 7-3. I feel it's more in favor for Kotal than 6-5 but mistimed poke or parry could give Tremor enough room. Basically, I never felt I was in a position Tremor forced me in. More like I messed up and put myself there.
The buffs need hits to make an impact and the overhead lava cuts combos short. That lava is the KK combo killer. That makes it the key in this matchup.
I'm confused. When you say it "cuts combos short" do you mean doing lava drop and having it trade with kotal pressing buttons? And even if Kotal has to score a hit to make the parry useful, I'd rather get hit with normal Kotal combos than put him in a position to do even more meterless damage.
Kotal doesn't really have much to talk about in the ranged aspect except maybe parry, and that only gets him so far. Tremor also has multiple types of zone control options so closing in isn't always as easy as one might think.
Please expand on that.
Its funny because I feel that parry allows him to control range much better than Tremor since not only does he completely nullify Tremor's projectiles, he also gets a damage buff for a few seconds. This coupled with sun ray and nicely timed ex disc makes me feel Kotal forces Tremor to come in close and I feel Kotal wins there too. It doesn't help that each one of Tremor's specials are completely react-able.
While you are correct, the real issue is if you want to trade you HAVE to spend a bar for the EX pizza. Meanwhile Tremor gets meter if you parry or not, and "reactable" is true but you can't parry the ground shake, meaning you run the risk of simply eating 8% by trying to parry every rock. The problem comes that you have to keep an eye on the rock itself, not tremor, to know what timing to use after it leaves his hands. You don't have time to look back, study his movements, and react. You're left to guess, especially after an EX up rock because he is pretty + afterwards. Kotal can survive in the full-screen game, but he isn't in a winning situation when he is stuck there.
what part of ny are you in? i can play you with my tremor. I personally think its in tremors favor.
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You lost me with explaining how the parry is used and the fact kotal has to guess. Why does kotal have to guess if you can easily tell which move is being used?
I'm in CT. Just took a trip to NY. I'm on psn and pc if you want to try online. . .
Definitely man. When can you play again?
The thing is I feel Kotal can just time ex disc to at least trade. Or at least put down Sun ray and parry.
I forget exactly but someone did a bit testing around the time Dave gave his thoughts on tremor. Basically, armor regulates kotal to using things like d4 to break the armor.
It's probably easier in crystal. The guy I played didn't use that variation and I said that maybe he should have. Then the MU probably turns even. We should play again.
When Tremor fires the overhead Lava special, its out. It doesn't go away if Tremor is hit, meaning KK can get a touch - but not land big damage because the lava can still hit and break it up.
