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mrcremation

Noob
Does anybody know if relic lure will break armor and stop a raw fatal blow?
just asking before I go lab it when I get home from work
 
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Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
Kollector Krew PSA:

I've never heard of him until the recent Destroyer Invitationals, but you guys HAVE to watch this Kollector player Creative Royalty. He just had an EPIC set against Dr Plat.

One thing he does I never seen any Kollector do is use JI2 as an opener mid-screen. He has it down so hardcore, its amazing to see. Also uses it just for plus frames on block to continue the stagger pressure. You see alot of creative resets mid-combo to get another full combo while the opponent is sleeping. Like bola into JI2 into S1 and then go for another combo.
The 2:34:20 mark is probably the most dominant and creative stagger/combo from a Kollector I've ever seen. Dr. Plat had no idea what to do LOL.
 
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mrcremation

Noob
Ok my fellow Kollector’s I have an explanation and then a question. I have been studying the kollector players and I notice that if they do a combo string like F12 and it’s is blocked they with go into the BF2. Which seems smart cause on block it gives good push back. However I have seen it trade sometimes because I imagine there is a gap. How safe is this option? And how do I calculate the gap in frames? And has anybody been punished for doing this?
 
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Viny_Silva1

Noob
mrcremation said:
Ok my fellow Kollector’s I have an explanation and then a question. I have been studying the kollector players and I notice that if they do a combo string like F12 and it’s is blocked they with go into the BF2. Which seems smart cause on block it gives good push back. However I have seen it trade sometimes because I imagine there is a gap. How safe is this option? And how do I calculate the gap in frames? And has anybody been punished for doing this?
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i was labbing the 443 string and depending on the dash speed you can actually dash and block or flawless block the last hit and it got too much range on the string im going to make a video on it
 
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mrcremation

Noob
I’m using squander and I hit a f12 at max distance and when I threw the war quoit it was blocked. This sucks. Does this happen with bolo as well?

Ok no need to reply I tested with bola and I got the same results. That’s ass.
 
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Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
mrcremation said:
I’m using squander and I hit a f12 at max distance and when I threw the war quoit it was blocked. This sucks. Does this happen with bolo as well?

Ok no need to reply I tested with bola and I got the same results. That’s ass.
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Yes unfortunately. So always be aware if you connect F12 at max range don't throw projectile.

Regarding your earlier post, regular ball can be interrupted on block but I don't know the exact numbers.
I've been saying for almost a year now BiTP upwards ball is amongst the most worthless slot moves in the game (I hate how I enjoy characters with these) the one ONLY legit use I found for upward ball is its quicker to start up on block and can't be interrupted by quick pokes or jabs like normal ball. At the very least you'll trade with them going nearly full screen. I'll be honest I didn't lab the whole cast for funky profile stuff just used math.
 
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mrcremation

Noob
Zer0_h0ur said:
Yes unfortunately. So always be aware if you connect F12 at max range don't throw projectile.

Regarding your earlier post, regular ball can be interrupted on block but I don't know the exact numbers.
I've been saying for almost a year now BiTP upwards ball is amongst the most worthless slot moves in the game (I hate how I enjoy characters with these) the one ONLY legit use I found for upward ball is its quicker to start up on block and can't be interrupted by quick pokes or jabs like normal ball. At the very least you'll trade with them going nearly full screen. I'll be honest I didn't lab the whole cast for funky profile stuff just used math.
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I mainly use squander. So I’m training myself to use relic lure when my combo string is blocked. It’s -9 on block and it gives good push back. I know there is a gap (more kollector bs) but I think most players don’t know about it.
 
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BarakaTile

Banned
Because when Squander came out WQT was 2 Slots, then once Armor Breaks were introduced Relic Lure was the 2 Slot on account of its new Armor Break properties.

I still miss the speed of old WQT and the only time I've gotten a KB off it was during practice when I had easy Krushing Blow on.
With Kustoms it should really go back to the old KB requirement (pair it with Vial)
 
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SnowboardRX

SnowboardRX

^ You have no idea who this guy is ^
Zer0_h0ur said:
REO and his gang put our baby armed mace wielding friend at just below top tier.
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I believe it. I've always thought he was good. If B1 was better (quicker/normal mid hitbox), he'd be unreal.

I still feel like BitP is the best version of him (with my style of play with him)...even with customs available.
 
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Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
SnowboardRX said:
I believe it. I've always thought he was good. If B1 was better (quicker/normal mid hitbox), he'd be unreal.

I still feel like BitP is the best version of him (with my style of play with him)...even with customs available.
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I began to play Kollector season 3 of KL. The first thing I've said and continue to say is that Kollector offers the most diverse, customizable way of playing Mk11 within one character and still remain competitive.
I love how guys stick Bitp, some say Spare Change is the jam, others like fully kustom.

I always used to tell people that bitched about no creativity or unique characters on Mk11 to try Kollector.
 
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Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
SnowboardRX said:
Here's a couple of sweaty sets I had the other night that I thought were pretty good in case anyone wants to watch.
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You use every tool the char has the right way IMO. When I play my chars I tend to get tunnel vision and forget to utilize all the tools like F2, S2, B2, and B1.
5:40 with the JI2 44 restand into 32KB was masterful. Was that something you do often? Very nice
 
SnowboardRX

SnowboardRX

^ You have no idea who this guy is ^
Zer0_h0ur said:
You use every tool the char has the right way IMO. When I play my chars I tend to get tunnel vision and forget to utilize all the tools like F2, S2, B2, and B1.
5:40 with the JI2 44 restand into 32KB was masterful. Was that something you do often? Very nice
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Thanks! Yeah, I realized a long time ago that in order to have success with Kollector, every single string needs to be utilized in order to catch the opponent off guard from time to time.

As for the restand, yes, I usually will try to throw this out only once a set as it usually catches people off guard. Most of the time I go for F1 after with much success but the 32KB is what I like to do to mix it up from time to time if I feel like I've conditioned the opponent.
 
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Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
SnowboardRX said:
Thanks! Yeah, I realized a long time ago that in order to have success with Kollector, every single string needs to be utilized in order to catch the opponent off guard from time to time.

As for the restand, yes, I usually will try to throw this out only once a set as it usually catches people off guard. Most of the time I go for F1 after with much success but the 32KB is what I like to do to mix it up from time to time if I feel like I've conditioned the opponent.
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Didn't you say you'd stick with BiTP bc that was still optimal for you? I see you using that bagbomb. I still use Armor break + Cmd grab, bc for my level I do well with it. But I def feel like I need tele + something else to level up my kollector. Can't decide between bomb or DOT dmg.
 
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