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Match-up Discussion Kinetic Balding's Cyborg matchup chart

Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
How do you manage 4+side arm,4+side arm, 4+side arm,4+ side arm. How is that a manageble 4-6?
How does anyone manage that in fairness?

Edit: Actually can't you just duck the side arm fullscreen and stand block after it's whiff and block the overhead? I'm pretty sure side arm doesn't recover before it's fullscreen.
 
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KHAOTIC_xWULFx

Cyborg's Savior
How do you manage in +side arm,4+side arm, 4+side arm,4+ side arm. How is that a manageble 4-6?
Yea I played Armor awhile back and I believe the score was 7-3 In his favor but then again I still need to play that match over with him, even tho there was alot of execution mistakes on my part I feel that if I play the Zod MU more with him then maybe at the highest level it might be 6-4 in Zods favor but you would need to play flawless and playing flawless online is just not gonna happen
 

KHAOTIC_xWULFx

Cyborg's Savior
The Sinestro MU is kinda like this, how ever gets that first 15-25% life lead most likely wins the match but its really important that Cyborg gets the first hit of meter because meter is super important in the MU but I still feel that Cyborg would need all the advantages he can get, you can only how about 10% of mistakes in that MU the other 90% has to be good smart play, but I think at the highest level the MU is a tough 6-4 that Cyborg loses but like Balding said, its manageable.
 

Kinetic Balding1

Day 1 Phenomenal Cyborg
How do you manage 4+side arm,4+side arm, 4+side arm,4+ side arm. How is that a manageble 4-6?
I just duck and dash or ground nb without getting punished. Zod can't get trait out if he blocks a ground fireball into another one and Zod will get hit by my next nb if he reversal side arms and the sidearms gets stuffed, letting me continue my nb. Trait and if 3 iazb are on the screen are the only things that make it bad. 3iazb rarely happens against cyborg since he has ground fireballs and air fireballs to catch him in the air, keeping him from getting them started. This matchup also becomes more managable when the cyborg interupts knows the holes in Zod's strings into lasers and trait mixups. After many hours almost everyday playing relaxedstate, Its easy to make the zod afraid to zone in fear of a nb hitting them. The only times relaxed state got trait out was only after a combo or after a blocked mb laser or a knockdown like that push mb
 

just_2swift

King of Edenia.
I just duck and dash or ground nb without getting punished. Zod can't get trait out if he blocks a ground fireball into another one and Zod will get hit by my next nb if he reversal side arms and the sidearms gets stuffed, letting me continue my nb. Trait and if 3 iazb are on the screen are the only things that make it bad. 3iazb rarely happens against cyborg since he has ground fireballs and air fireballs to catch him in the air, keeping him from getting them started. This matchup also becomes more managable when the cyborg interupts knows the holes in Zod's strings into lasers and trait mixups. After many hours almost everyday playing relaxedstate, Its easy to make the zod afraid to zone in fear of a nb hitting them. The only times relaxed state got trait out was only after a combo or after a blocked mb laser or a knockdown like that push mb
Do you have match footage? :rolleyes:
 

Jaku2011

Filled with determination
How in the world is Zatanna only 4-6 that shits like 1-9 it's so free for her. I don't even play this matchup anymore it's so impossible. She zones him free, teleport gets her out of set ups and the corner if by some miracle you get her there, her standing 3 is god like. What can Cyborg do? I'm not a great Cyborg for sure but I can't see him having any options whatsoever.
 

Ram

Buluc Chabtan
How in the world is Zatanna only 4-6 that shits like 1-9 it's so free for her. I don't even play this matchup anymore it's so impossible. She zones him free, teleport gets her out of set ups and the corner if by some miracle you get her there, her standing 3 is god like. What can Cyborg do? I'm not a great Cyborg for sure but I can't see him having any options whatsoever.
When she is zoning you with rings, you can reversal grapple in. That's all I got for you lol
 

Kinetic Balding1

Day 1 Phenomenal Cyborg
How in the world is Zatanna only 4-6 that shits like 1-9 it's so free for her. I don't even play this matchup anymore it's so impossible. She zones him free, teleport gets her out of set ups and the corner if by some miracle you get her there, her standing 3 is god like. What can Cyborg do? I'm not a great Cyborg for sure but I can't see him having any options whatsoever.
Zatanna cant mindlessly zone cyborg or she will get hit by a ground fireball. Teleports are only on read in which to punish cyborg. Zatanna's zoning can easily trade or be interupted with a reversal fireball. If she trances after the reversal, the trance loses its control reversing effect and mb doesn't do anything. On knockdown, Cyborg can punish her wakeup in two ways, 1. You can jump back 2 or 3 into a full combo. 2. You can jump back 2 or 3 into an air fireball so if zatanna does the back tele , then the fireball will punish her and if she does the other tele, the jump 2 or 3 will punish her too. Zatanna really can't jump on cyborg. Cyborg's d2 beats out all her jump-ins. Zatanna gets her damage from cyborg from reads and cyborg's mistakes yes she can zone him a little but she can't just throw disks out against him like she can against bane or lex. This is no worst than 4-6.
 

ARMOR

Khaos God
Premium Supporter
I just duck and dash or ground nb without getting punished. Zod can't get trait out if he blocks a ground fireball into another one and Zod will get hit by my next nb if he reversal side arms and the sidearms gets stuffed, letting me continue my nb. Trait and if 3 iazb are on the screen are the only things that make it bad. 3iazb rarely happens against cyborg since he has ground fireballs and air fireballs to catch him in the air, keeping him from getting them started. This matchup also becomes more managable when the cyborg interupts knows the holes in Zod's strings into lasers and trait mixups. After many hours almost everyday playing relaxedstate, Its easy to make the zod afraid to zone in fear of a nb hitting them. The only times relaxed state got trait out was only after a combo or after a blocked mb laser or a knockdown like that push mb
Zod can recover from iazb to block the nova blast. He out damages cyborg. His trait shits on cyborg. The way you explain the mu's makes it seem like you expect to be in full control of the pace of the match. The one thing that annihilates cyborg is that he has little to no options to approach zod or even zone him. Zod can make 5 mistakes and still win this mu. I've played the mu aat the highest possible level and all I can say is that zod wins 7-3 easily.
 

ceemurda

Tha BLakk ROBOCOP
Zod can recover from iazb to block the nova blast. He out damages cyborg. His trait shits on cyborg. The way you explain the mu's makes it seem like you expect to be in full control of the pace of the match. The one thing that annihilates cyborg is that he has little to no options to approach zod or even zone him. Zod can make 5 mistakes and still win this mu. I've played the mu aat the highest possible level and all I can say is that zod wins 7-3 easily.
no one play cyborg at the highest possible level anymore wtf are you talking about.... slips was the last person I knew who had a great cyborg and Im sure he threw in the towel by now
 

ARMOR

Khaos God
Premium Supporter
no one play cyborg at the highest possible level anymore wtf are you talking about.... slips was the last person I knew who had a great cyborg and Im sure he threw in the towel by now
Im referring to myself using cyborg at a high level. Keep in mind that I do use hitbox so I'm consistent 90% of the time
 

Kinetic Balding1

Day 1 Phenomenal Cyborg
Zod can recover from iazb to block the nova blast. He out damages cyborg. His trait shits on cyborg. The way you explain the mu's makes it seem like you expect to be in full control of the pace of the match. The one thing that annihilates cyborg is that he has little to no options to approach zod or even zone him. Zod can make 5 mistakes and still win this mu. I've played the mu aat the highest possible level and all I can say is that zod wins 7-3 easily.
Yeah if 3 iazb are on the screen. Other than that, I can fit in a ground ball to counter zone