Johnny Cage Overhaul

[Playpal]

What if 21b4 is followed by d1 on hit into f33. Can they jump out or be poked?

Frame data says 21B4 is +1 on hit. On paper, a D1 will snuff out anything they do and will AA if they try to jump. D1 on hit is +1 if they're standing, -1 if they're crouching and -13 on block. Regardless, F33 can be snuffed with a D1.

 

[Roko1985]

Frame data says 21B4 is +1 on hit. On paper, a D1 will snuff out anything they do and will AA if they try to jump. D1 on hit is +1 if they're standing, -1 if they're crouching and -13 on block. Regardless, F33 can be snuffed with a D1.

So what if you do 21b4 d1 d3(hits) f33?

 

[Playpal]

So what if you do 21b4 d1 d3(hits) f33?

Just check the frame data to see if it's guaranteed, although D3 on crouch hit is +7.

If you're too lazy for that: D3 is guaranteed except 6 frame moves, the game doesn't allow trades and will randomly assign a winning hit when moves are done at the same time. D1 on stand hit will not give you a guaranteed D3. If your D3 hits if the opponent is standing, F3 is not guaranteed since a 6 frame move will also randomly win. On crouch hit however, F3 is guaranteed. If D3 is blocked, F3 is definitely not guaranteed.

This is all on paper though, it's pretty tough to do moves right down to the first possible frame.

 

[Roko1985]

Just check the frame data to see if it's guaranteed, although D3 on crouch hit is +7.

If you're too lazy for that: D3 is guaranteed except 6 frame moves, the game doesn't allow trades and will randomly assign a winning hit when moves are done at the same time. D1 on stand hit will not give you a guaranteed D3. If your D3 hits if the opponent is standing, F3 is not guaranteed since a 6 frame move will also randomly win. On crouch hit however, F3 is guaranteed. If D3 is blocked, F3 is definitely not guaranteed.

This is all on paper though, it's pretty tough to do moves right down to the first possible frame.

I though so. One more question then. What is the best follow if you read that your oponent will jump after hit by 21b4?

 

[Playpal]

I though so. One more question then. What is the best follow if you read that your oponent will jump after hit by 21b4?

AA him with D1, standing 1, standing 2, F3, B3 and njp.