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Jaqui is cancer and needs to be banned

TheJaxLife

Mortal
Broken is Petshop from JoJo's: Heritage of the Future or Ivan Ooze from MMPR: Fighting Edition.

Jacqui is a top tier character in a mostly well balanced fighting game. She requires actual, real lab time to fight consistently but that is on the player and not the character.

I have seen high level players fight high level Jacqui with (in no order) Scorpion, Jade, Geras, Cetrion, and Sub Zero...and I am sure there are more. Broken characters win 7-3 or better against the entire roster. Broken characters only 5-5 is a mirror match.

Jacqui is annoying as shit and absolutely curb stomps casual players like me that either refuse to lab or just can't be bothered. But broken??? Nah
 

SonBearku

#NerfRaiden
I thinks it's pretty apparent she's not gonna get any significant nerfs. We had to deal with upgraded for over a year and now with customs it's upgraded with plasma. I really think they either don't know how to nerf her or quite simply think she's fine. I think making the plasma grenade conflict with enhanced air shrapnel would be the best bet. Maybe giving either f12 or f31 a FB gap but Idk, that might be to much.
 

Pyrosis

Gentlemen, behold! My opinion!
I'm not gonna say she needs to be removed, or nerfed, or what have you. But uh... She does factually do 40% or more with the upgraded+plasma set up even if you do breakaway.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
reo’s podcasts go on and on for hours and help shed light on the game’s problems but things still remain the same. its about time we as a community should get our thoughts and opinions directly to NRS in that link i posted.
As someone who is on REO’s podcasts, nah, this is not how the story goes :rolleyes:

(And I think you are a wee bit confused about the meaning of ‘Support’.)
 

trufenix

bye felicia
You know I gotta be honest, I jumped off Twitter cause it's just a big mandalorian spoiler party over there right now and this really hit the spot
 

Onryoki

We all die alone. So love yourself before you go.
I mean Jacqui is annoying as fuck, but I don’t think she’s necessarily broken. She’s strong and she definitely has a lot of tools in her arsenal, but broken? No. She just destroys scrubs like me and many others in this thread. I don’t think this incessant whining will change anything, I mean voicing your opinion matters but chanting “sHe NeEdS tO gEt NeRfED” isn’t gonna change shit. If you tell NRS what should be changed about jacqui, such as her leap or something else specific, they will look at it most likely change it. But till that day comes, just stop whining and get good.
What does peen size have to do with it
Well.... it’s obvious he thinks about the dick size of other guys often. Maybe he’s just insecure about his own
 

Saltea Moonspell

"Mind Over Matter" I dont mind, and X dont matter
@Dil-Dog

I can understand your frustration, the furious state you get into when you go against Jacqui, and whenever you attempt to push buttons, she shuts you down. You block - you die, you try to counter-attack - you die quicker.

I agree with you, that there might be more players frustrated, but if look at the forum, there arent many threads like yours. You know why, because having hard matchups, isn't the reason to do such drama. This is not the way to go. In fighting games, there are always characters that are super strong, and in hands of good player, they may seem to be impossible to overcome. Now, I could go over all the well-known titles, but for the sake of argument, I will focus on Mortal Kombat series.

In MK9, you had Kabal, Cyrax, Sonya, Kenshi -going against those without understanding the MU, was suicide.
In MKX you had Smoke, Kano, Hellfire Scorpion, HQT Predator, Millena and few more - same scenario.
Trust me, back then you would smash your controller in a week. Judging by your approach, you are a newbie. You had some success in MK11, dealing with most of the cast is somewhat manageable, and you come across Jacqui, and your cooked brain flip. Believe me, Jacqui will not be the only one, that will annoy the shi@t out of you.

Believe me when say this, the game has been toned down - think of MK11, like a bicycle with supporting wheels attached to the rear wheels, so that you may have it easy. This approach will get you nowhere. Jacqui will still hunt you down. If she ever gets touched, I bet my money, she will still dominate you.

I suggest sharing your gameplay against her in your character forum section, and request support/overview your matches, and provide guidelines. You will have to lab certain things alone, or ask someone to help you deal with certain things. This will require you to know her frame data - not entire, but you gotta know, when you should hold block, and when you can press buttons, and if so, what buttons. You will have to work on your reflexes because she has a minimal frame disadvantage on her pokes/staggers. You will have to understand and learn how to apply certain tactics, like whiff punishing, you will have to learn how to bait. You will have to understand her meta, in order to successfully deal with her offense. Without that knowledge, you will not be able to defend yourself.

Now because the game is designed as "casual friendly" and that's how you have been playing the game, making that step forward will be difficult. You will also have to know your character inside out, in order to take advantage of everything above. That requires much more than playing KL, and learning combos. This is stepping into the competitive level of play.

I assume you are young if you have sympathy for the game, and you desire to play good, be a decent player, you gotta do this. Its like stepping into the real world. You gotta suck it up, grow balls, and make that move.

There isnt shortcuts here. Its not like when you finish college and your folks get you a car, and a flat, and the only thing you gotta worry about is getting a job - you get my point? Give it a shot, if after two-three months you will still get your butt whooped, perhaps you should consider playing something else, like MMRPG, or COD, I dont know.

Look, we were not born good players. It takes months, years to play properly. There are some decent folks here, who are willing to help you, if you are willing to learn, and have what it takes. This current thread of yours is nothing more than entertainment to those who are taking a dump. Instead of desperately wasting your time and energy on this bs, hit the lab, start to work on your skills, and with time and patience, it will be easier.

Good luck kid!
 

Gaxkang

Banned
@Dil-Dog

I can understand your frustration, the furious state you get into when you go against Jacqui, and whenever you attempt to push buttons, she shuts you down. You block - you die, you try to counter-attack - you die quicker.

I agree with you, that there might be more players frustrated, but if look at the forum, there arent many threads like yours. You know why, because having hard matchups, isn't the reason to do such drama. This is not the way to go. In fighting games, there are always characters that are super strong, and in hands of good player, they may seem to be impossible to overcome. Now, I could go over all the well-known titles, but for the sake of argument, I will focus on Mortal Kombat series.

In MK9, you had Kabal, Cyrax, Sonya, Kenshi -going against those without understanding the MU, was suicide.
In MKX you had Smoke, Kano, Hellfire Scorpion, HQT Predator, Millena and few more - same scenario.
Trust me, back then you would smash your controller in a week. Judging by your approach, you are a newbie. You had some success in MK11, dealing with most of the cast is somewhat manageable, and you come across Jacqui, and your cooked brain flip. Believe me, Jacqui will not be the only one, that will annoy the shi@t out of you.

Believe me when say this, the game has been toned down - think of MK11, like a bicycle with supporting wheels attached to the rear wheels, so that you may have it easy. This approach will get you nowhere. Jacqui will still hunt you down. If she ever gets touched, I bet my money, she will still dominate you.

I suggest sharing your gameplay against her in your character forum section, and request support/overview your matches, and provide guidelines. You will have to lab certain things alone, or ask someone to help you deal with certain things. This will require you to know her frame data - not entire, but you gotta know, when you should hold block, and when you can press buttons, and if so, what buttons. You will have to work on your reflexes because she has a minimal frame disadvantage on her pokes/staggers. You will have to understand and learn how to apply certain tactics, like whiff punishing, you will have to learn how to bait. You will have to understand her meta, in order to successfully deal with her offense. Without that knowledge, you will not be able to defend yourself.

Now because the game is designed as "casual friendly" and that's how you have been playing the game, making that step forward will be difficult. You will also have to know your character inside out, in order to take advantage of everything above. That requires much more than playing KL, and learning combos. This is stepping into the competitive level of play.

I assume you are young if you have sympathy for the game, and you desire to play good, be a decent player, you gotta do this. Its like stepping into the real world. You gotta suck it up, grow balls, and make that move.

There isnt shortcuts here. Its not like when you finish college and your folks get you a car, and a flat, and the only thing you gotta worry about is getting a job - you get my point? Give it a shot, if after two-three months you will still get your butt whooped, perhaps you should consider playing something else, like MMRPG, or COD, I dont know.

Look, we were not born good players. It takes months, years to play properly. There are some decent folks here, who are willing to help you, if you are willing to learn, and have what it takes. This current thread of yours is nothing more than entertainment to those who are taking a dump. Instead of desperately wasting your time and energy on this bs, hit the lab, start to work on your skills, and with time and patience, it will be easier.

Good luck kid!


NRS just has to make a better game, really.

Yeah one can try to find ways around their stuff and still be at a disadvantage anyways, but it still remains they should just make a better game...make it match the production values. The OP isn't wrong to want to see something better, but it's also truth that NRS will not change. the same criticisms of their game stuff will repeat because they don't change.

It's like a movie with terrible acting but great production values. That is what NRS makes.

I simply give the game the chuckle it deserves these days. :D And I'm not the only one heh
 
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WhooFlungPoo

Apprentice
Yall complainin bout jackie when jade has a 50/50 on every single hit she does. Lets bring her into the discussion. Unless it already was as i was too lazy to catch up. Lol
 
I’m by no means a high level player but, I think the recent changes to her are enough for now. I would much rather see other characters buffed up to her level of effectiveness, and then see where we go from there.
 

Gaxkang

Banned
Yall complainin bout jackie when jade has a 50/50 on every single hit she does. Lets bring her into the discussion. Unless it already was as i was too lazy to catch up. Lol
Ya could bring the whole game in really lol.

But I suppose Jacqui can tend to occupy an apex of the anti-fighting game NRS shoots for. :D
 

Gaxkang

Banned
I’m by no means a high level player but, I think the recent changes to her are enough for now. I would much rather see other characters buffed up to her level of effectiveness, and then see where we go from there.
In terms of the close combat, I'd think that would involve decreasing the close combat punishment even further from its already low amount.
 

OwtQue

PSN: iiPuREWreQMoDe
I want to look at the character from a different perspective, because yes, she is very very strong and possibly could use a nerf or two.

But my point is... she is just so fucking BORING! She is literally the worst kombat kid. She is just Jax but with hands. Is this because NRS tries to be woke? I don't want to go into politics but that's kinda the truth. I don't mind well written black khars like Jax. But Jackie is an empty shell of a character. I think most MK players would have preffered to have Takeda or Kung Jin in the game.
This comment is giving me serious Trump Supporter vibes...