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Set her to do sai and teleport kick immediately
Set her to do sai and teleport kick immediately
I could show it when I get off today, but I can tell you right now that still won't work for kitana. Try it yourself. I'm just showing Kitana's zoning and full screen presence doesn't need feel as oppressive as it could be. Once you know this you'll see that the matchup becomes noticably harder for your highborn opponent.
No good Kitana Zones with sais, that’s irrelevant, full screen her best strategy is to bait glow to teleport on you, and I don’t see how Jade wins this upclose, Kitana has better frames and staggers, and a high damage +20 restand ender. Kitana’s D3 low profiles all of Jade’s wakeups too, so if you're in the corner then you’re dead.
Is that the earliest you can activate teleport kick? Might just be online messing with me, then.
Fans are crouch reactable. Teleport has to be done on a read, so the Jade player just needs to be patient. Jade could get glow full screen without taking any chip, when patient. Kitana's staggers are good but I don't they're that much better than Jade's, and I don't even think they are as good. But there are more ranges than in your face and full screen. Kitana uses her fans as a midscreen check, but she loses that once glow is activated (as long as Jade is smart it's going to happen) At this point Jade just straight up out ranges her. This really exposes how bad highborn's movement is. Her restand giving her guaranteed pressure is little comfort to a highborn player that can't even get in. As for frames, Jade can stay safe and plus on every string. Kitana gets damage in the corner, but nowhere else is she high damage. Jades wakeup attack game is bad against most characters, but that doesn't mean she bad against them, especially since she can control most other aspects of the match.
idk about Jade's stagger being that great tbh. b3434 is fb'able easily even online, b343 is a free throw mixup for the opponent, and all her cancels are reactable and punishable. She's never truly safe.
Come on, Jaded is a lot more than that. But you're right air glave is super OD. But other than baraka and maybe skarlet, I feel that jaded does slightly better in most matchups.
I think you're just the better rushdown player then is all. I couldn't bear to lose air glaive against any of the balanced melee'ers like Jax or Johnny. nvm the Liu matchup, I'd get rekstroyed as Jaded
Amp blazing nitro kick (I think that's the kick from pole vault) jails from b343 and removed the gap and leaves you plus and in their face or plus, but a safe distance away. The cancel is punishable, but it's really hard to react to with the right conditioning. I've played some crackhead reaction lui kangs and they don't even react to the cancels. But she has other staggers too. The ones off her f343, b1, 212 are all super strong too
Educate me.
Sure I can sometime later today, we can either play later or I can show u some options with a short video.
If you have the game on PC sure thing. Otherwise I'm sure a complete breakdown of Jaded's staggers, pressure, general game plan and conditioning tactics would be much appreciated in the community. Fairly sure more people would hop in on the discussion too.
Jaded's general gameplay is to make your opponent guess between b343xx run cancel/deadly butterfly/regular pole vault/run intro nitro kick. It's a 25/25/25/25, they have to either react to run cancel with throw/a fast normal, react to deadly butterfly for full combo, react to regular pole vault with a poke, fast mid or throw and finally react to run into nitro kick by just blocking (or guessing a throw). You can also stagger empty b3 into another empty b3, throw or b343xx all of the above. Also, if jade ever confirms b343 on hit, she can amp razor rang and then f34xx any of the above again/f21 for maximum damage combo (risky, but doable). If you hit confirm f34, you can AGAIN restart pressure with amp razor rang all over again. Basically, just keep the opponent guessing whether you will go for plus frames, 3-hit-on-block deadly butterfly, safe regular pole vault, throw or empty jabs/b3.
Or they can just block wait and then blow you up. idk man, seems weak
As long as they block, they're eating chip and opening themselves for throws and/or more pressure, though. They have to take risks to regain space and that is where you capitalize. In no way I think Jade has it anywhere as easy as Liu Kang, Erron or Sonya in that pressure game, but she's certainly not to be taken lightly.
The +3 is really good in corner and they have to respect and you always safe. If they keep getting kicked it means they are trying something.
She has a restand?
ArE you talking about her string into PoleVault run into Kick Amp?
I think by "restand" he meant any string on hit into amp razor rang
The exglaive after B343 on hit, then strike throw mix.
Right, thought Jaded had an exclusive restand somehow.
don't be crazy
I'd be crazy about that tbh
Sure. Let's go that way then.
That's no threat. Liu's F4, Kabal's B1, those are a threat, they lead to damage. Nothing happens if you get hit with anything from b3, you take 15% damage and you'll whack Jade for 40% the next time she does something meterless on block.
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She's not shit.
This is where I need you to stop and with this thought in mind, re-read what I just said about why she's bad.