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Me neither anymore. It's too shit to bother. Waiting for DoA5, it's only 3 days later in Europe so it's going to be a hype.I don't really play this game much now
Me neither anymore. It's too shit to bother. Waiting for DoA5, it's only 3 days later in Europe so it's going to be a hype.I don't really play this game much now
Good luck buddy . I'm just over it, I'll play it here and there, but I'm not as focused on it now...Me neither anymore. It's too shit to bother. Waiting for DoA5, it's only 3 days later in Europe so it's going to be a hype.
EDIT: What you need to understand is that Jade has a line in the sand with B2 and DB2. What I did to understand it is take a piece of paper, make a stickfigure of Jade and mark her hit levels. You'll soon understand that she has a "forcefield" that is the staff. The reason why this is not obvious is that people know this even instinctively and these moves are easy to blow up if not used spot-on.Having trouble with the Kano matchup. I only play online so that probably has something to do with it. Still:
I was glad to see that TaC at least had this at 4-6 at one point, but I want to know what the 5-5ers think about this MU and what you all do in it.
- Every time I SF'd on reaction to his knife, he could still land a second one as I'm coming out of SF.
- BF3DF1BLK. BF3DF3BLK. You need to block after each of your own projectile.
- I had no idea what to do about his F11 pressure.
- D1,DF2, anticipate upball by backdash B2. If he catches on and charges in, DB2 into combo
- I couldn't get away from him once he was in on me.
- More info on that please. What were you trying to do?
- Kano gets in very easily. Throwing a single boomerang at full screen had me eating either an airball or dealing with immediate pressure after jump-over B112.
- You threw the boomerang at the wrong time and the wrong boomerang. Fullscreen you throw a low and bait his jump and throw a high. You can pretty much demolish Kano from fullscreen all he can do is armor in with the /\-ball and you can block and njp that.
- Some of his normals beat her d3.
- A lot of things beat D3 but it's true by mechanics that if you hit with D3, you get free pressure.
- I was getting crossed over like a bitch and having to deal with all of his mixups. Is there anything less committal than NJP for punishing crossup abuse?
- EnGLOW.
I keep him out and make him beg for space. And when he tries anything other than stay out, I armor him for 35% + reset or blockstring, then back out nice and slowly again.
I suck at explaining match ups...though I will try my best.Having trouble with the Kano matchup. I only play online so that probably has something to do with it. Still:
1. Every time I SF'd on reaction to his knife, he could still land a second one as I'm coming out of SF.
2. I had no idea what to do about his F11 pressure.
3. I couldn't get away from him once he was in on me.
4. Kano gets in very easily. Throwing a single boomerang at full screen had me eating either an airball or dealing with immediate pressure after jump-over B112.
5. Some of his normals beat her d3.
6. I was getting crossed over like a bitch and having to deal with all of his mixups. Is there anything less committal than NJP for punishing crossup abuse?
I was glad to see that TaC at least had this at 4-6 at one point, but I want to know what the 5-5ers think about this MU and what you all do in it. STB Espio AestheticLove
If you're getting punished for trying to punish, you're being baited. That's how this game works. You figure out what the opponent does and then fk'm'up with it. It took me a while to understand this and I'm still having trouble applying it to every situation. And yeah, jumping is stupid in mk unfortunately. There is such a thing as quickdash and punish but it's hard to pull off. You bait the jump by pretending to do what you usually do, ie d3 for me, and when they jump, you duckdash away and b1 or b2 for full combo. It works and is beautiful. But hard to do.Thanks for your help. Regarding my comments about getting him off of me, it was typical Kano shenanigans, f11~choke, d1~choke, f3b2 on knockdown, crossups, etc. My main problem was that he kept hopping right on in, usually by baiting out the b2, dashing out, and jumping in on recovery, then block strings for days. When he saw me let go of block, he would usually neutral duck to bait my 12 then punish with upball. Rinse and repeat until I backed myself into the corner. Another trick he was doing was crossing me up on wakeup to screw up my glow inputs, which had me whiffing a standing 3 and him landing a crossup punch into 40%. lol idk I was definitely outplayed, it just felt like I didn't have anything to make that matchup even, either.
Thanks for your help. Regarding my comments about getting him off of me, it was typical Kano shenanigans, f11~choke, d1~choke, f3b2 on knockdown, crossups, etc. My main problem was that he kept hopping right on in, usually by baiting out the b2, dashing out, and jumping in on recovery, then block strings for days. When he saw me let go of block, he would usually neutral duck to bait my 12 then punish with upball. Rinse and repeat until I backed myself into the corner. Another trick he was doing was crossing me up on wakeup to screw up my glow inputs, which had me whiffing a standing 3 and him landing a crossup punch into 40%. lol idk I was definitely outplayed, it just felt like I didn't have anything to make that matchup even, either.
STB Espio
BillStickers, i haven't played too many kanos at top level, but it's probably 5-5 but i think Jade has the advantage because she has better tools.
anytime i play a kano it's normally trying to bait an wakeup/ any roll
So I picked up Jade two days ago and have been doing pretty well on the Vita scene. It's great to know that practically nobody is familiar with the matchup.
I have some questions particularly to STB Espio since you use Jade in a tag match. What's a good matchup (don't say stryker) for a partner for Jade? I had some tragic experiences against a smoke player (the double parry) so I was think of going to Jax as a partner. Who else is good to fill in Jade's gaps?
As an amateur player I keep her as a wild card for the "oh shit" moments. Just another thing I'll throw against PoliceBrutality.I don't honestly know...I only play Stryker, Jade, and Sheeva well enough to be well versed in their match ups. Maybe a rushdown character for the sake of variety? If you like Jax, play him as you mentioned.
Also, trying to use boomerang set ups against Smoke is an absolute no-no most of the time unless you catch him off guard.
I wasn't going to suggest Stryker anyway....lol. I don't project my personal tastes onto other players.
I'd also like to add the true test of your Jade will come from people who do know how to fight her, not from those that don't, good luck .
Oh this reminds you're that guy that was salty about Stryker lol.As an amateur player I keep her as a wild card for the "oh shit" moments. Just another thing I'll throw against PoliceBrutality.
Also, what's a good way to pressure people with Jade? In my case most people get hit immediately by either SO or en low sai (or both, heh). I never have the time to use 34 en SO as a combo starter o.o
Aren't kano's strings supposed to be interruptable?
Plus Jade can make anyone's strings interruptable with ex flash! lol
Don't play him with jade pls. I want to steal a win from him just onceee...Oh this reminds you're that guy that was salty about Stryker lol.
I'll make sure PoliceBrutality is ready for Jade...we play from time to time.
1,2
3
3,2
4, forward 3
2,3, forward 2
ex glow
Some examples of pressure options with Jade...most are neutral or slightly negative. 4, forward 3 is -9, but has major pushback.
Much better detail and there's a video on using ex glow for offensive purposes with visual examples.
http://www.testyourmight.com/threads/espios-jade-video-guide.23462/
Everyone has gaps in some of their strings, even Kabal and Kenshi do, but yes Kano is no exception.
Ex glow is deadly for forcing a whiff (and yes I had to change my text to ex glow colors lolol).
I already have....it's too late for that.Don't play him with jade pls. I want to steal a win from him just onceee...
Yeah I'll try to see what's up with ex glow.
How about b1 ex low sai? I'm pretty carefree with my meter since I haven't tried using glow yet.
Hahaaa! Looks like you are out of luck my friend. I've played STB Espio pain in the ass jade and also STB TakeAChance. These two make me respect jade a whole lot now lol. Im sure you gonna give some problem as well. Just dont abuse glow and shadow kick lol. Well you can abuse glow if you see me spam gunshot hehe. If you have a PS3 I suggest you play Espio to pick up some tips. All Stars Battle Royale is stealing my attention at the moment (im spamming Radec sniper...he is my stryker). Let's get some games soon. I'll point out what you are doing good and wrong with JadeAs an amateur player I keep her as a wild card for the "oh shit" moments. Just another thing I'll throw against PoliceBrutality.
Also, what's a good way to pressure people with Jade? In my case most people get hit immediately by either SO or en low sai (or both, heh). I never have the time to use 34 en SO as a combo starter o.o
Hahaaa! Looks like you are out of luck my friend. I've played STB Espio pain in the ass jade and also STB TakeAChance. These two make me respect jade a whole lot now lol. Im sure you gonna give some problem as well. Just dont abuse glow and shadow kick lol. Well you can abuse glow if you see me spam gunshot hehe. If you have a PS3 I suggest you play Espio to pick up some tips. All Stars Battle Royale is stealing my attention at the moment (im spamming Radec sniper...he is my stryker). Let's get some games soon. I'll point out what you are doing good and wrong with Jade