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GLoRToR

You're my fan if you can't stop shitposting me.
Does anyone know can her 5th victory "Kounterstrike" appear in the Premium Shop? I still don't have it and don't want to waste my time on gauntlet.
Technically every item can appear in the store but it's probably randomised for the most part, unless they push something like the skins.
Your best bet is completing the tower where it's found or whatever imo
 

Espio

Blade Charge
Lead Moderator
Im learning Jaded

whats her gameplan?

Pole vault can be used for block pressure, running in from full screen, plus frames for a bar and is complimented well by glow.

You're pretty much a stagger, offense, chip master with back 3,4,3 staggers and you can use back 2 into pole vault for great ranged punishes into knockdown that leave the opponent close to continue the offense. It's incredibly nuanced and fun.

It's pretty straight forward and you can cancel your run for a bar of defensive meter or cancel pole vault into super too.

Do you have specific questions?

Does anyone know can her 5th victory "Kounterstrike" appear in the Premium Shop? I still don't have it and don't want to waste my time on gauntlet.

I would just play her towers. The requirements now for towers are way easier and the accumulation of money since release makes purchasing them like chump change to get that win pose. I've never ever seen it in the premium shop since the game came out so I'd be surprised if it's in there. I've seen others in there for her win poses, but it's probably like the silver, green and gray Jade costume I got where it has never been in the store.
 

GLoRToR

You're my fan if you can't stop shitposting me.
Pole vault can be used for block pressure, running in from full screen, plus frames for a bar and is complimented well by glow.

You're pretty much a stagger, offense, chip master with back 3,4,3 staggers and you can use back 2 into pole vault for great ranged punishes into knockdown that leave the opponent close to continue the offense. It's incredibly nuanced and fun.

It's pretty straight forward and you can cancel your run for a bar of defensive meter or cancel pole vault into super too.

Do you have specific questions?




I would just play her towers. The requirements now for towers are way easier and the accumulation of money since release makes purchasing them like chump change to get that win pose. I've never ever seen it in the premium shop since the game came out so I'd be surprised if it's in there. I've seen others in there for her win poses, but it's probably like the silver, green and gray Jade costume I got where it has never been in the store.
I didn't quote you either you just think so :D
 
How can i get Jade’s True Edenian skin? I know its from a key tower, but is it only by trading 200x skeleton keys with Kollector in the krypt or there is other way to obtain it?

ps. i also know that if i pick Larpadian Sea with P2 colors it will be the same.
 

Benlo

Noob
Please, NRS, make an amplified version for Jade BF2/butterfly, so it becomes a decent launcher.

She needs it. (And delete Divine Forces, it's useless)
 

Zviko

Noob
Can someone explain why does 43 into BF1 amp work on Kitana mid screen but not on Kotal for example. Does it work only on Kitana? Doesn't make any sense to me..
 

variable

Noob
How can i get Jade’s True Edenian skin? I know its from a key tower, but is it only by trading 200x skeleton keys with Kollector in the krypt or there is other way to obtain it?

ps. i also know that if i pick Larpadian Sea with P2 colors it will be the same.
you can definitely get it another way, I think as a tower reward... I have it and didn't get it that way.

best of luck, sorry I can't give a better answer, but if it helps I have a spare key for that same tower currently so it must come up with some frequency.
 
So....very disappointed Jade got basically nothing in the patch.....but also not surprised. I've been playing Jaded lately because I've been finding Emerald Defended to be unbearably boring. Why can't she have 2 1 amplified pole vault, back 343 amplified pole vault, or 1 2 amplified pole vault hit on the amplified pole vault special when they are blocking low ? It seems absurd to me if they are blocking low and the 12 is blocked but when she does the amplified pole vault (overhead) she just leaps over them ..........WHYYYYYY? Also back 3,4,3 amplified pole vault as a given should work when the first kick connects....I believe 2 3 amplified pole vault does work. It's just so crappy....Jade who has the shortest combos and no damage, they can't just give us THIS ?
 

Marinjuana

Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes

Seobones

Noob
Maybe it was there before but I just discovered that Jade B1 is -2 on hit versus crouching opponent, so it doesn't combo with Pole vault.
Look like a bug to me, the animation look glitchy.
 

John_NX

Your circumstances are dire!
Wait so, Jade's nitro kick now never resets after you do another attack? It's pretty much a guaranteed KB?
 

HeavyNorse

#BlackLivesMatter
Wait so, Jade's nitro kick now never resets after you do another attack? It's pretty much a guaranteed KB?
No, you still need to do two in a row, but if the second one misses, it won't nullify the first hit, so you can do it again until it hits a second time for the KB. However, do another attack that isn't a Nitro Kick, and then it will nullify.
 

John_NX

Your circumstances are dire!
No, you still need to do two in a row, but if the second one misses, it won't nullify the first hit, so you can do it again until it hits a second time for the KB. However, do another attack that isn't a Nitro Kick, and then it will nullify.
Not what I was hoping...but that is something.
 

Zer0_h0ur

XBL tag: South of Zero
No, you still need to do two in a row, but if the second one misses, it won't nullify the first hit, so you can do it again until it hits a second time for the KB. However, do another attack that isn't a Nitro Kick, and then it will nullify.
OK I read that change wrongly. That blows lol. Poor jade
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Premium Supporter
The reset KB never really affected me much personally but the B2 that change I'm curious about once I play later on.
 

Espio

Blade Charge
Lead Moderator
The Jade changes don't amount to much in the way of utility or excitement.

It not resetting on whiff doesn't change utility for the shadow kick crushing blow in any meaningful way as I've never in my life felt like whiffing shadow kick at a distance like a fool as against any player worth playing against, they're gonna clean your clock with full combo punish via down 2 KB or whatever.

The changes to her back 2 just means she can cancel her back 2 even if only part of it hit so instead of getting like 5-6% for a anti-air off back 2, she can get a staff spin for like 11% ish? Is this helpful? Sure, it is. Is it going to amplify her usage or overall strength in ways that alter match ups? I don't see why it would.


I still don't understand why Untamable has been left to rot the way it is. Jade's weaknesses have been her gaps everywhere and all this variation does is give her MORE gaps to worry about. No glow, no plus frames, no real zoning and a garbage teleport.

If they want an alternative to the other two variations staff ground pound should be gapless off of back 3,4,3 and Back 2 so there's at least a mind game between interrupting the whole string or getting punished by staff slam into pressure. Projectile reflect should be replaced with glow like the other two variations. This variation doesn't gain anything that the other two don't do better and safer so it's really not worth it in its current build.
 

Benlo

Noob
I just want a total rework of the character. Her dial-in combos, her gaps, useless moves, her variations. She's too much unsafe, if you don't want to spam projectiles or just d2.

A blank sheet to write it from the start.
 

Raider

Noob
I think that Jade is not in bad position at all. I am playing her and she can be very good, but i agree that she needs slight dmg buff for some of her moves.

Problem is buffed Kitana, they made her much better for almost no reason, just because her fans were crying on social media and bullying developers to buff her for months.

Skarlet is in the worst position out of the 3. She just barely works online. She is full of gaps and almost everything is super slow and punishable. And NRS is ignoring her since day one. Some ppl say "she is great in the right hands" and that might be true, but that right hands is probably less than 1% of all the MK11 players. She needs a lot of changes and fixes and NRS keeps ignoring her.
 

John_NX

Your circumstances are dire!
I think that Jade is not in bad position at all. I am playing her and she can be very good, but i agree that she needs slight dmg buff for some of her moves.

Problem is buffed Kitana, they made her much better for almost no reason, just because her fans were crying on social media and bullying developers to buff her for months.

Skarlet is in the worst position out of the 3. She just barely works online. She is full of gaps and almost everything is super slow and punishable. And NRS is ignoring her since day one. Some ppl say "she is great in the right hands" and that might be true, but that right hands is probably less than 1% of all the MK11 players. She needs a lot of changes and fixes and NRS keeps ignoring her.
Almost no reason? Fearless and especially Fanfare kitana needed the buffs she got. Is she "lucky" she got buffed when other characters need buffs as well? Yes, most definitely. However, don't go out of your way saying that she didn't need these buffs. Pre patch fan fare was probably one of the worst variations in the game.
 

Hot_DNA

Noob
Why is the hitbox on her staff so bad????? Why is there a hurtbox on her staff??? I go to punish and the characters jump out of the staff... i go to b2 and half the cast can use a normal and hurt me...wtf