Question Is Pain Chain Guaranteed After B1?

[Korbidon]

Is there any reason not to do this reset? It does more damage, seems like it cannot be escaped, and prevents clash?

This should be the 1 bar BnB right?

 

[badgerfan20945]

Wait, is it possible to do the B1+Grave Rot into grab? Is the grab still guaranteed?

Edit: Superman can punish it, so I figure it won't work.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

This is dumb
this works
this character is almost more of a nightmare than superman.

 

[DaiHuu]

This is dumb
this works
this character is almost more of a nightmare than superman.

50-60%s everywhere now, haha. I was doing it on Rip when we were playing earlier.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

50-60%s everywhere now, haha. I was doing it on Rip when we were playing earlier.

This probably will get patched out eventually. But man is it dumb.
This character is just hilarity once he touches you.

 

[Chongo]

This probably will get patched out eventually. But man is it dumb.
This character is just hilarity once he touches you.

GRUNDY FIT LITTLE MAN IN POCKET

 

[DaiHuu]

Damage comparisons with my bnbs:
F+1,3, 11~MB Swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw (47%)
f+1,3, 11~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. pause, health trait throw (58%)

d+2, 11~MB Swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw (36%)
d+2, 11~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. Pause, health throw (51%)

112~MB Swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw( 52%)
112~MB swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. Pause, health throw (59%)

f+1,2~MB swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw (46%)
f+1,2~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. Pause, health throw (53%)

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Damage comparisons with my bnbs:
F+1,3, 11~MB Swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw (47%)
f+1,3, 11~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. pause, health trait throw (58%)

d+2, 11~MB Swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw (36%)
d+2, 11~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. Pause, health throw (51%)

112~MB Swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw( 52%)
112~MB swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. Pause, health throw (59%)

f+1,2~MB swamp hands, b+3, ji.3, 11~health throw (46%)
f+1,2~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1. Pause, health throw (53%)

LOL
this is dumb
DUMB DUMB DUMB

we should probably delete all threads related to this so it doesn't get patched out.

d2 AA is 50% now. THAT IS DUMB!!!!!

 

[Brahma]

Doesn't seem to be any reason not to. You may be able to b+1~grave rot then do armored trait grab, for a damage reset that does slightly more (+3% with db3 +, but is not guaranteed. I'd still rather get guaranteed damage though, 60% is really beefy for one meter midscreen, and not really worth risking the opponent getting out to squeeze in a few extra dmg.

I can see this getting patched though, it's kinda grimy.

 

[Derckey]

Exactly what everyone else is saying, there is no reason not to do this. It will for sure be patched out, but will probably stay for a couple of months, I assume.

 

[K7L33THA]

I've had the very hard AI d1 me out of trait throw after b1 stun. Is it possible or was I just late on the trait throw?

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

I've had the very hard AI d1 me out of trait throw after b1 stun. Is it possible or was I just late on the trait throw?

you were late.

its probably a 1 frame link. I literally just mash it out. If you think you'll be late... just MB it LOL.

Who is the mod that can delete this thread though. We all should just PM each other this broken mess !!!

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I tested this yesterday and angled jumps get out for free every time...

What am i missing?

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

batmans 1 frame parry works on trait throw. Can he parry through this?

 

[DaiHuu]

I tested this yesterday and angled jumps get out for free every time...

What am i missing?

You're doing it too late, you can't do anything to get out of this.

 

[The Ultimate]

This new tech is definitely worth learning. On that note...

I'm currently practicing the timing. I'm in training mode and I have the AI set to constantly forward jump. I hit a B1 and then time the grab. Does the AI jump immediately when it gets the chance? If so, then this is a good way to get down the timing.

To those who use this new tech consistently: let me know if that's a good way to practice the timing of landing reset trait grab after the B1. Thanks~

 

[Derckey]

This new tech is definitely worth learning. On that note...

I'm currently practicing the timing. I'm in training mode and I have the AI set to constantly forward jump. I hit a B1 and then time the grab. Does the AI jump immediately when it gets the chance? If so, then this is a good way to get down the timing.

To those who use this new tech consistently: let me know if that's a good way to practice the timing of landing reset trait grab after the B1. Thanks~

That's not a very good way of practicing it. The AI sometimes takes a few moments to finally jump. And there's not really much to practice, the best way of getting it is by spamming trait after the b1 connects.

 

[Mikemetroid]

So after testing this out further, I've found out this should be the go to thing to do instead of a regular bnb. In total this does 60%, while my regular bnb does 52% (112~MB Swamp hands, dash, b+3, ji.3, 11~health trait), experimenting with Superman's super fast...super, not even Superman can get out of this. Thoughts?

112~MB Swamp hands, ji.2, b+1, (29%) trait throw (31%)

Dude

That is so good.

 

[greeneless]

Off blocked B+1 I could interrupt the cancel with a superman D+1

 

[DaiHuu]

This new tech is definitely worth learning. On that note...

I'm currently practicing the timing. I'm in training mode and I have the AI set to constantly forward jump. I hit a B1 and then time the grab. Does the AI jump immediately when it gets the chance? If so, then this is a good way to get down the timing.

To those who use this new tech consistently: let me know if that's a good way to practice the timing of landing reset trait grab after the B1. Thanks~

Wait for the blood splatter to go away and immediately throw, you can also just do b+1, don't cancel it, and then just do trait throw.

 

[1man3letters]

Off blocked B+1 I could interrupt the cancel with a superman D+1

the setup is b1 on hit,not block.
and the b1 to trait isnt a cancel,you wait after the b1 hits

 

[greeneless]

the setup is b1 on hit,not block.
and the b1 to trait isnt a cancel,you wait after the b1 hits

Ah ok. Looked like it 2-in-1'd to me so I thought this was a block set up.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

ok i figured it out

 

[Konqrr]

Grundy's d2 was already OP... with this he is just stupid lol

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Grundy's d2 was already OP... with this he is just stupid lol

his d2 is really one of the only good reliable AA d2's in the game.

thats not op!!! LOL