Is iceclone one of the best traits in the game?

Discussion in 'Sub-Zero' started by dansel, Jul 17, 2017.

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  1. dansel

    dansel Noob

    subzero is a new character, so everygame is play, i play against him :). and every game i am cursing because of the FUCKING iceclone. the trait has (almost) no cooldown and is the perfect wakeup attack. the icelone completely shuts down my pressure game .. i just cant beat it. after a knowdown the neutral resets everytime. i think this is VERY VERY strong. what do you guys think? any tipps ? maybe i do something wrong. btw: i play scarecrow or catwoman.
     
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  2. Daemantalo

    Daemantalo Still wants a Watchman Character for I2!

    No. Not even in the slightest. Sub just happens to be a character that counters your type of rushdown and spacing characters.
     
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  3. dansel

    dansel Noob

    i am not complaining, i am just asking. but the iceclone wakeups shuts down every rushdown (execpt for mb b/f3). and the trait has no cooldown. i think it is very unique the have a trait that saves you from pressue after a knowdown.
     
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  4. ABACABB

    ABACABB End Of Humanity

    pick brainiac and fly over it lmao
     
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  5. masherofbuttons

    masherofbuttons I'll mash out of +30 I know no fear

    It doesn't shut down all rushdown though. You play catwoman right? Straight whip, d+b3 and Ji2 all go through klone and punish it on oki. Git gud
     
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  6. Shaka

    Shaka Aquaman, Black Adam, Batman.

    no.

    Aquaman, Adams, Batmans, Atros etc have better traits.

    I also didn't know that ice clone was a true wake up? either way MB B/F3 on read.
     
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  7. dansel

    dansel Noob

    i tried f2 with scarecrow, but if i touch the iceclone, i am frozen. i will buy subzero and hit the lab :). what is his release date (i dont have the fightpack) ?
     
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  8. Temptress

    Temptress Tamaranean Princess

    18th of July, I believe.
     
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  9. tatterbug4

    tatterbug4 Bug of tater's

    The thing lasts like 2 seconds lol
     
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  10. Redk9

    Redk9 Noob

    There's something about misspelling the topic title that just makes it seem like an incompetent question
     
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  11. xInfra Deadx

    xInfra Deadx You talk too much.

    Not. Even. Close.
     
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  12. Tanno

    Tanno The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
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    After some time with Sub, I find that he has a hard time against some of the characters. Ice Klone isn't the best wakeup when his klone fades away the instant the opponent gets close. :/

    However, if you do double IK, you might have a chance to deal with the zoners this way by either Iceball or Ice Klone Toss (the air one).
     
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  13. Tweedy

    Tweedy Noob

    I think it's really good. It's basically an 8 frame mid with no hurtbox.
     
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  14. 1man3letters

    1man3letters Alpha Tarkatan - Moderator
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    Ice Klone is 10,000% not the "perfect wakeup attack", don't mean to sound like an ass when say this but go to practice mode, set quick trait cooldown on, set up wakeup clone and I bet within 5 mins of testing you'll change your mind
     
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  15. BxA Ragnarök

    BxA Ragnarök Premium Supporter
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    I play Scarecrow. He laughs at the clone for the most part.
     
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  16. MadPropz101

    MadPropz101 "I still got it...but not much of it"

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    Catwoman and Scarecrow are THE characters that pretty much counter SZ, so idk why you're getting hit by the clone.
     
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  17. pfiidud3

    pfiidud3 Noob

    On wake up? just be close, it will whiff/not come out.
     
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  18. SaSSolino

    SaSSolino What's even the point without hellsparks?

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    Catwoman's whip ignores the clone free, so use that.

    Scarecrow also has a ji2 that completely ignores the clone and a f2 which, if spaced right, goes through it (the hook doesn't have a hurtbox). If you are too close to do f2 without getting frozen, d3 is a great option.

    Worst case scenario just block, the clone doesn't last that long.
     
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  19. Skedar70

    Skedar70 Premium Supporter
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    Yeah I think clone has been toned down actually. The cooldown seems higher than in MKX. WoW shield goes through it and it goes away on block. Grodd projectile immunity allows you to walk through it. I don't think it is as powerful.
     
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  20. HeroesNZ

    HeroesNZ Baconlord's Billionaire Sugar Daddy

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    No it doesn't even work properly and even if it did it's still not touching say Atrocitit's
     
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  21. PMac206

    PMac206 Noob

    In my opionion it's one of the best , it has so many uses
     
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  22. G11OST

    G11OST Noob

    seeing as the game has traits like
    joker's
    blue beetle's
    wonder woman's (random shit no place in fighting games)

    versus
    adam's
    dexstar
    batman
    ...


    i say his trait is pretty good but more or less balanced
    even if they do tweak the hitbox on it I feel it will remain in a good spot, which is good but not busted



    ^
    my answer to topic title



    as far as your text, seems like your best bet is to buy him as you plan and take him to that practice to grind'm out
    good luck
     
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  23. Invincible Salads

    Invincible Salads Just in it for a good time

    u forgot aquaman, thats a bad MU for subzero as well.
     
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  24. Marinjuana

    Marinjuana Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes

    Best trait doesn't mean anything anyway.

    Also it's kind of a semantics thing between who has the actual best trait(probably Bane) versus who's trait does the most for their gameplan. Either way your trait could be buns and the character could still be top tier.
     
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  25. Zerodegreez

    Zerodegreez Grandcryomaster Bat-Zero

    Wonder woman may have the worst trait but her Lasso and Shield give Zero fucks about the clone much like her I2 Butchered Grade A "C'' Personality.
     
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