Question - Reptile If this patch happens, what would you like to see changed with Reptile?

[THTB]

Rumors are floating around about a new balance patch. If this patch actually hits, what would you like to see them do with Reptile?

Here's my general changes (From a washed-up player):



Universal
=Fix bug where forceball disappears from the field, but still can be stopped

Reptile's base works just fine. He's, IMO, among the best bases in the game. It's generally his variations that need touched on. This is just a bugfix.


Noxious
-Remove passive DoT
-DoT no longer can be used to win the round
+Active gas does not go away when hit
+Reduce both versions of gas recovery to 30 frames

I think Noxious just needs a rework. The fact that gas goes away when Reptile is hit severely limits how you can use it. It's okay vs characters who don't have great offense to open you up, but you give up a lot of the advantages the other two variations have, with very little in return. Give the gas a reason to be used outside of preventing flawless victories.


Nimble
-Reduce normal basilisk active time by 2 seconds
+Reduce normal basilisk recovery by 10 frames

Nimble could realistically do with zero actual changes. This is more a dream change than anything. Just a little pick up to push the variation closer to Deceptive.


Deceptive
+Reduce normal stealth recovery to 28 frames

Deceptive is generally perfect otherwise. There's just no point in having normal stealth be so bad, is all. Again, a dream change he could do without. Many don't realize this variation actually got nerfed in the XL balance changes, as his blockstrings when cancelled into EX invis produce 5 frames less blockstun. But this is a change I could live without.


Thoughts?

 

[gam224]

Seems legit, just make back 2 not plus

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Changes are cool for the most part...

I dont see how the Noxious buffs justifies his nerfs to the passive DOT tho, and even then there'll be still no good reasons to pick him over the other 2

Just my thoughts

 

[colby4898]

You should be able to get to level 2 gas by doing normal gas twice. Like high techs gauntlet charge

 

[Levaranoia]

Seems legit, just make back 2 not plus

nope

 

[THTB]

Seems legit, just make back 2 not plus

b2 has very stubby range and leads to pretty low damage overall even with meter investment. It being +1 isn't really a major deal, when he can't really take advantage of it all like that.

Changes are cool for the most part...

I dont see how the Noxious buffs justifies his nerfs to the passive DOT tho, and even then there'll be still no good reasons to pick him over the other 2

Just my thoughts

I wanted to give EX gas the property of counting as hits on armor too, but I'm not sure how crazy that'd be for him.

 

[gam224]

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nope

b2 has very stubby range and leads to pretty low damage overall even with meter investment. It being +1 isn't really a major deal, when he can't really take advantage of it all like that.

I wanted to give EX gas the property of counting as hits on armor too, but I'm not sure how crazy that'd be for him.

+ meter less 50/50's should not be a thing period.

 

[THTB]

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+ meter less 50/50's should not be a thing period.

B2 is literally the only + on block option of his 50/50 game. Because of the way it works positioning-wise, the frame advantage doesn't mean as much as you'd think it would.

 

[Riot Frenzy]

I agree with the nimble change. I think acid puddle needs a buff for his base game.

 

[Amplified$hotz]

He finally gets a human costume so I can play him.

 

[the.hamburglar]

Seems legit, just make back 2 not plus

Its plus 1

 

[Darth-Nero]

Make acid puddle restands
Make Ex force balls eat projectiles
Make reptile great again

 

[dribirut]

Nimble:
Reduce normal balistik activation by 7frames
Make f412mb balistik -6

Noxious:
Normal tik does .33%
f412mb fumes 0 on block

Deceptive:
Normal Invis doesn't go away on block
Normal Invis recovery reduction by 12 frames

 

[WiseM0nkey]

b2 has very stubby range and leads to pretty low damage overall even with meter investment. It being +1 isn't really a major deal, when he can't really take advantage of it all like that.

I wanted to give EX gas the property of counting as hits on armor too, but I'm not sure how crazy that'd be for him.

that would make is oki game stronger, so it's a welcome addition

 

[WiseM0nkey]

tbh i would make his s2 a mid

just a luxury buff tho

@THTB

 

[ismael4790]

Imo Rep is balanced and super solid. His best buff will be the nerf to the top tiers.

 

[Bruno-NeoSpace]

Rumors are floating around about a new balance patch. If this patch actually hits, what would you like to see them do with Reptile?

Here's my general changes (From a washed-up player):



Universal
=Fix bug where forceball disappears from the field, but still can be stopped

Reptile's base works just fine. He's, IMO, among the best bases in the game. It's generally his variations that need touched on. This is just a bugfix.


Noxious
-Remove passive DoT
-DoT no longer can be used to win the round
+Active gas does not go away when hit
+Reduce both versions of gas recovery to 30 frames

I think Noxious just needs a rework. The fact that gas goes away when Reptile is hit severely limits how you can use it. It's okay vs characters who don't have great offense to open you up, but you give up a lot of the advantages the other two variations have, with very little in return. Give the gas a reason to be used outside of preventing flawless victories.


Nimble
-Reduce normal basilisk active time by 2 seconds
+Reduce normal basilisk recovery by 10 frames

Nimble could realistically do with zero actual changes. This is more a dream change than anything. Just a little pick up to push the variation closer to Deceptive.


Deceptive
+Reduce normal stealth recovery to 28 frames

Deceptive is generally perfect otherwise. There's just no point in having normal stealth be so bad, is all. Again, a dream change he could do without. Many don't realize this variation actually got nerfed in the XL balance changes, as his blockstrings when cancelled into EX invis produce 5 frames less blockstun. But this is a change I could live without.


Thoughts?

All you suggestions seems fair enough

There are some more chances that i'd like to see:

Reptile:
- J+4 slightly normalized.
- Disappearing forceball bug now fixed.

Noxious:
- Acid Spit now has a little bit of ticks that damage the opponent over time on block or hit.
- EX Acid Puddle area of effect is now doubled.
- Reptile can now perform D,D+3 while EX D,D+3+BLK is active.
- Reptile can now perform EX D,D+3+BLK while D,D+3 is active.
- Poison Gas (D,D+3) and Toxic Fumes (EN D,D+3+BLK) now stack with each other.

 

[The_Tile]

B2 is literally the only + on block option of his 50/50 game.

So 50% of his 50/50s are plus on block?

That's damn OP AF if you ask me, Paulo pls nerf.

 

[Wushu Warrior]

Honestly..
B2 to be minus on block since it goes over d1's
D3 to be minus -5 so it doesn't spam
And more recovery for spit

 

[D7X]

Rumors are floating around about a new balance patch. If this patch actually hits, what would you like to see them do with Reptile?

Here's my general changes (From a washed-up player):



Universal
=Fix bug where forceball disappears from the field, but still can be stopped

Reptile's base works just fine. He's, IMO, among the best bases in the game. It's generally his variations that need touched on. This is just a bugfix.


Noxious
-Remove passive DoT
-DoT no longer can be used to win the round
+Active gas does not go away when hit
+Reduce both versions of gas recovery to 30 frames

I think Noxious just needs a rework. The fact that gas goes away when Reptile is hit severely limits how you can use it. It's okay vs characters who don't have great offense to open you up, but you give up a lot of the advantages the other two variations have, with very little in return. Give the gas a reason to be used outside of preventing flawless victories.


Nimble
-Reduce normal basilisk active time by 2 seconds
+Reduce normal basilisk recovery by 10 frames

Nimble could realistically do with zero actual changes. This is more a dream change than anything. Just a little pick up to push the variation closer to Deceptive.


Deceptive
+Reduce normal stealth recovery to 28 frames

Deceptive is generally perfect otherwise. There's just no point in having normal stealth be so bad, is all. Again, a dream change he could do without. Many don't realize this variation actually got nerfed in the XL balance changes, as his blockstrings when cancelled into EX invis produce 5 frames less blockstun. But this is a change I could live without.


Thoughts?

You already know. I think he's fine. But if I had to make a change, make the gas not go away on hit. I don't think he needs buffs OR nerfsomething for the most part

 

[D7X]

So 50% of his 50/50s are plus on block?

That's damn OP AF if you ask me, Paulo plus nerf.

He's a very punishable character ... HIGH RISK, HIGH REWARD. Note that you get little damage from B2 and B34 is 16%

 

[D7X]

I almost forgot! Human Ninja Reptile, MK2 Reptile (Could be alternate to HN Reptile), and Emerald Steel Reptile. NRS PLEASE

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Honestly..
B2 to be minus on block since it goes over d1's
D3 to be minus -5 so it doesn't spam
And more recovery for spit

why more recovery on spit lol? it's already a punishable on whiff by a good jump in, it's like other projectiles

 

[D7X]

Keep forgetting to add shit. FUCK. No Noxious gas should be .35% or something.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

why more recovery on spit lol? it's already a punishable on whiff by a good jump in, it's like other projectiles

Yeah it trades with Sub's 31 frame ice ball. The recovery is fine lol.