If NRS removed the ability to cancel pokes on block......

[IrishMantis]

Which Character would be hurt the most?

Now I'm not saying they should ever remove the ability to do it, but at the same time I can see why it can be frowned upon as in why give away your guaranteed pressure if it hits.

I have being guilty of using it with SD myself but this thread is not to talk about is it scrubby or not, should it be removed or not (which is not happening) but to theorise for fun on which character would suffer the most.

Even though there is a poll, let us know who you choose.

Note: I know most are variation dependent but I'm just going to name chars as full to cover the spectrum.

Also it's only on block so any combo that requires a poke xx special will still work.

 

[Awkward Sloth]

As an Injustice player this thread feels like a personal attack against me.

But on topic not being able to do pokes into command grabs could mess up those sorta characters in MKX.

So instead of one character I'd say it would be a sub archetype of characters. Grapplers.

 

[IrishMantis]

As an Injustice player this thread feels like a personal attack against me.

But on topic not being able to do pokes into command grabs could mess up those sorta characters in MKX.

So instead of one character I'd say it would be a sub archetype of characters. Grapplers.

But which grappler the most?

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Idk if it's the most but he's the only character I really understand deeply and it would hurt him a little so I'll go Sub.

In Cryo it removes some of his tick throws

Grandmaster means no more cheesing it with D4 klone

 

[Pan1cMode]

Predator or alien.

Besides the point, pokes cancelling into specials are fine. Y'all should just wait for Injustice when you get a full combo punish from a d1.

 

[IrishMantis]

Predator or alien.

Besides the point, pokes cancelling into specials are fine. Y'all should just wait for I justice when you get a full combo punish from a d1.

Different games though

 

[ismael4790]

Removing the general mechanic of canceling pokes into specials would put another nail in the coffin for Balanced Kenshi. Same with Stunt Double.

 

[Awkward Sloth]

But which grappler the most?

I dunno whoever has the most tick throws off pokes/less tick throws off strings?

I ain't about that grappler life so I dunno.

 

[Second Saint]

I can see it hitting Shinnok pretty hard. D4~hellsparks is a much reviled space creating tool and instills a lot of respect when it comes to counterpoking Shinnok, as best case scenario you can try and punish regular hellsparks, which is pretty difficult for many characters. Worst case you've just eaten 25% into a restand or are fullscreen to start getting zoned again.

Goro also gets that level of respect with d1~punch walk. I use it a lot myself with Venomous D'vorah, and it's literally the only way I get respect from Kitana's d1, hit or block.

I dunno whoever has the most tick throws off pokes/less tick throws off strings?

I ain't about that grappler life so I dunno.

I think that would be Sun God Kotal. Without his pokes, his only tick throws are off highs. Maybe Goro? I don't really know his tick throws, but I can only remember seeing it off pokes. Commando, Jason, Wrestler, and Erron Black all have ticks off of either a mid or a string. Feel like I might be forgetting someone though...

 

[xrzxrazor]

have people forgotten about dat dank d4,d3,d1 into flame aura with scorpion? dat shit is stupid

 

[Bruno-NeoSpace]

Guys, if it happens, of course tick throw would not be included...

 

[Karma]

d4 + ice klone all day!

 

[Tanno]

Just get rid of d4 + ice klone.

D4xxIce Klone, trolling. :trollface:

 

[Mista_Snacks]

feel like war god would be trash, literally all they do is d4 OH sword or Low sword lol

 

[IrishMantis]

I don't know though

I feel it's weird design if your char relies on poke specials

 

[Pan1cMode]

Guys, if it happens, of course tick throw would not be included...

So you can not cancel pokes into specials... except for grabs? I think it seems obvious that grabs would be included.

 

[Mista_Snacks]

also leather face killer uses d3 BS xx 1 (the mid that starts the combo) alot cuz its safe and has goofy pushback

 

[ILuvFightGames]

I've never thought any character could cancel a poke on block except for grapplers, which other characters can do this?

 

[IrishMantis]

Technically Poke xx Cmd grab is not a true tick throw

It's more of a cmd grab cancel

A true tick throw would have to have the exact same timing off block and hit and it's never off a cancel

Like the same applies to Cmd grab chars on my above statement as in you should never rely on poke xx Cmd grab IMO

 

[WiseM0nkey]

i guess my first choice would be shinnok since, ya know, d4xxHS.

But i can see Goro being hurt by that as well for not being able to cancel his godlike pokes into PW.

however, i've been campaigning against special cancellable pokes for god knows how long that i dont really care if your character gets hurt. That shit is obnoxious to watch, especially in MKX.

 

[IrishMantis]

Shinnok seems to be dominating

 

[Espio]

I've never thought any character could cancel a poke on block except for grapplers, which other characters can do this?

Literally anyone with a poke and a special lol. Some characters are better than others though like Shinnok and Goro to name a few. Kitana, Sub-Zero, Jax, Raiden, the list goes on.

 

[ILuvFightGames]

Literally anyone with a poke and a special lol. Some characters are better than others though like Shinnok and Goro to name a few. Kitana, Sub-Zero, Jax, Raiden, the list goes on.

Wth? Really? But only on block right?

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

Shinnok, Goro & Sub Zero, honorary mention to Alien.

 

[omooba]

the real fix would be to get rid of ice klone completely