Shaazzyam
undefeated online evo champion
you also forget to mention my Batman, breh, but its cool
you also forget to mention my Batman, breh, but its cool
totally slipped my mind
His Batman is that forgettable?
His spear connection success ratio in ranked matches is over 70%, he's the peyton manning of throwing spears.His Batman is that forgettable?
It certainly is a fun MU. Despite all of MMH's nonsense, I do enjoy it more than most MUs.
This mu to me comes down to two key principles. 1. Mmh obviously does huge damage when he guesses right in the post mb venom game. 2. Mmh has the ability to get out of DD'S corner bullshit with a simple mb orb. Not to say we cant anticipate the orb and work around it but it makes it a guessing game for the dd player. Other characters we are dictating what happens there and forceing opponents to block, tech throw, or jump(dash) out of the corner. Momentum seems to dictate how the match turns out.
Ya, my options are a million times better post-MB shoulder, it's hilarious.
Because the hurtbox of MMH during OH tele is extremely stupid, he's damn near invulnerable while he going down. In fact his hotbox is somewhat off screen going up. But there's a window for DD to grab him or Grundy to uppercut him. Basically moves that go damn near straight up with enough reach can actually touch him.
Lol don't use me as an example, I don't know the MMH MU much. And my dpad is messed up so air grab kept coming out when I pressed d1 pfffft. Anyways if I actually played it right it would still be 5-5 but my argument is that it can be a soft 6-4 if I kept air grabbing your teleports and kept you grounded. But yeah I'm not experienced enough, I won like 5 out of 100 games lol. @Shaazzyam
I agree, DD dumpsters MMH in the corner but if he gets a good read then he's out. If anything he can just pushblock to make it easy. We kinda have to make the MMH pull out a MB orb before we get in and make him try and burn meter to keep us off even though he builds meter quite fast. We never want to walk into a MMH with meter, just taking more damages.
If you are saying that regular teleport will whiff punish the air grab, make sure you read the OP. I said it may be at a timing where the regular tele gets blocked. Like while I'm walking back and throws the tele, I move my stick half circle forward and press 1 to do air grab. But while I'm moving half circle forward I'm still blocking while I'm moving down, so the regular tele hits me on block before I even press 1.
There's no reason for MMH to throw out a raw OH tele in neutral, and it'd have to be hella telegraphed for a clean anti air throw. If you fuck up or I just beat it randomly that's 40% vs. your 8% or whatever.
Post blocked tele, we are still in range to grab MMH or d3 and d1. But since I'm pretty sure OH tele is safe on block its a bit of a guessing game where if MMH does anything that has a lot of startup frames right after OH tele can get easily punished by d1~ES, but can punish DD options by doing something fast, or can just backdash Doomsdays options. Either way it depends on how greedy each player is to get caught reaching lol. But imo it feels to be in MMH favor cause of his damage potential off of a d1 then us DD players.
This tech isn't really viable online play unless it was as you said telegraphed or just scouted really hard. But offline this becomes much more viable as reaction times and no delay on inputs lets you pull it off more easier. I've only landed this online a few times, but the most important thing about this tech imo, is that it's one the best options vs OH tele that costs no meter. Dashing forward doesn't either and is a universal move, but is punished by regular tele, while the air grab can maybe beat both if the timing allows it. But if it does beat both, could be the best punish vs MMH tele. Of course getting this down is a bit far fetched I know, but if it can be done, MMH is just that much more limited. Not trying to force the 6-4 number here, just making sure everyone knows the potential to this is all.
Yeah there's like 3 or so fighters that can actually make a MMH main sweat during the fight. Flash DD Lex and someone else maybe idk. It's 5-5 where DD gets zoned out, but when he gets in and stays in he can really beat up MMH. His only way out of the pressure is a wakeup or to catch us in a combo that preferably leaves us damn near full screen. This tech could make the MU a soft 6-4 for forcing MMH to use orbs and normals for setups into tele rather than just using it to check us to get a free combo. Hope this helped @SkaGoogle
I don't think Doomsday beats MMH, it's just he has the tools necessary to deal with his shit.
