Nivek
Athena guide me, the thunder God...
Because there was a small argument for her iadg move and it's frames, i went to the lab to check them again myself..
so..
i checked it with Batman vs WW in practice mode with the frames that we already have in the move list and the results are :
EDIT:Belt : -6
lower abs : -7
Higher abs : -8
Under nipples : -9
Over nipples : -10
Throat : -11
Mouth : -12
Nose-eyes : -13
Forehead : -14
Pointy ears : -15
Above(hitbox?)-(16+)
In conclusion it's at least -6 at the best but in midscreen the pushback makes it safe in most of the cast..
EDIT:I was going to delete this about active frames but is interesting info and im gonna keep them..
And something that i observed is that on the corner i was able to punish her iadg with Doomday's d1 and Aquaman's d2 which are both 7frame..but on midscreen she was able to BLOCK them..
What that means??
It means that both DDs d1 and AMs d2 are 7 frame on the FIRST active frame!!
The pushback makes the first active frame to whiff and the second/third/whatever frame hit that comes is blocked!! that happens with many moves for example Batman's b2,Flash's Flying Uppercut etc etc...!
Finally in my mind i already have 4 characters that "always" punish her iadg
1)Superman's Super(obvious...even with the 3 extra frame nerf)
2)Flash's Flying Uppercut DB3* (edit
nder specific times when it isn't the j.f. -6 or max range standing -7,all other are punishable)
3)Batman's Bats* (edit
n the right even with 1 bat,on the left he needs full trait)
4)Martian Man Hunter? (he has 5 frame jab with trait it's maybe possible.Haven't tested)
Now discuss with FACTS!! Not guesses..
so..
i checked it with Batman vs WW in practice mode with the frames that we already have in the move list and the results are :
EDIT:Belt : -6
lower abs : -7
Higher abs : -8
Under nipples : -9
Over nipples : -10
Throat : -11
Mouth : -12
Nose-eyes : -13
Forehead : -14
Pointy ears : -15
Above(hitbox?)-(16+)
In conclusion it's at least -6 at the best but in midscreen the pushback makes it safe in most of the cast..
EDIT:I was going to delete this about active frames but is interesting info and im gonna keep them..
And something that i observed is that on the corner i was able to punish her iadg with Doomday's d1 and Aquaman's d2 which are both 7frame..but on midscreen she was able to BLOCK them..
What that means??
It means that both DDs d1 and AMs d2 are 7 frame on the FIRST active frame!!
The pushback makes the first active frame to whiff and the second/third/whatever frame hit that comes is blocked!! that happens with many moves for example Batman's b2,Flash's Flying Uppercut etc etc...!
Finally in my mind i already have 4 characters that "always" punish her iadg
1)Superman's Super(obvious...even with the 3 extra frame nerf)
2)Flash's Flying Uppercut DB3* (edit
nder specific times when it isn't the j.f. -6 or max range standing -7,all other are punishable)3)Batman's Bats* (edit
n the right even with 1 bat,on the left he needs full trait)4)Martian Man Hunter? (he has 5 frame jab with trait it's maybe possible.Haven't tested)
Now discuss with FACTS!! Not guesses..
sad panda.
