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Art Lean

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But it's all about the realism of what a real woman would wear to an actual fight. Like a space suit, night vision goggles, ten belts, restrictive vacuum-sealed full-body leather, thigh-high kitten-heeled boots...

... Right.

Hang on, is that the current Sonya, what on earth are you wearing?!?!! :eek:

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CrimsonShadow

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But it's all about the realism of what a real woman would wear to an actual fight. Like a space suit, night vision goggles, ten belts, restrictive vacuum-sealed full-body leather, thigh-high kitten-heeled boots...

... Right.

Hang on, is that the current Sonya, what on earth are you wearing?!?!! :eek:

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Lol but let’s be honest.. Nobody is going to wear what Shang Tsung or Noob Saibot have on to a boxing match or UFC fight either. Because this isn’t a cagesports/ringsports game, it’s people fighting to the death and shooting things at each other. Fireballs, wizards, ninjas, the whole 9 yards.

But if you notice, people mainly only complain about the females, which I find weird.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
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I take it you mean sorcerers since there are no wizards in MK. They are similar but not the exact same thing.

@Vslayer That's a good outfit honestly, similar to her MK X comic look. She looks like she's about to hit the gym or go out for a summer jog or kick some ass in the UFC ring
 
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Art Lean

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Lol but let’s be honest.. Nobody is going to wear what Shang Tsung or Noob Saibot have on to a boxing match or UFC fight either. Because this isn’t a cagesports/ringsports game, it’s people fighting to the death and shooting things at each other. Fireballs, wizards, ninjas, the whole 9 yards.

But if you notice, people mainly only complain about the females, which I find weird.
But hasn't that been a feature since MK1? Sonya in her aerobics gear, Kano in his karate gi, Johnny in the Bloodsport shorts, Liu Kang in workout pants?

MK2 had Jax in his lycra, Johnny in his workout gear and high-ups that he still has as options to this day, Liu still just in his workout pants, Shang and Baraka in vests, the girls in lycra, Shao Kahn in a pair of speedos and some shoulder pads?

MK3 had Liu still in his workout pants, Sub Zero in lycra with suspenders, Sonya still in her aerobics gear, Sheeva in a mankini, Kung Lao in just a sash, Jax still in lycra, Nightwolf in lycra and a leather vest, Shang in lycra with suspenders, Shao Kahn still without any clothes on?

In MK11, I love seeing Shao Kahn having an array of new helmets and full-body samurai armour and I also love that he can be made old school in his speedos too. We can make Jax wear his dodgy lycra pants again. Johnny's got his old MK2 gear, Sonya's got a throwback to her MK1 aerobics gear by default in her array of clothing as well as her actual MK3 outfit for KP holders, Sindel and Cetrion are both spilling out of both of their costumes and Sindel's bodysuit is sexy as hell, Jade looks gorgeous in some of her outfits, Kitana does too, we've had the MK2 female ninja skins, I love Kold War Skarlet (which I concede is silly and ridiculous but looks fantastic), Liu Kang is still in his workout pants, so I don't really have much of an issue with the skins available in this game...

... except for Cassie and Jacqui who both largely look dreadful in this game. It's just about how they look, not how little they're wearing, and this is simply offering suggestions of in-character alternatives that follow the trend of what other characters have received in their selections and reflect their previous attires. It's like someone went out of their way to really change the characters from how they've been presented in the past. Both looked great in MKX and the comic, with an array of interesting outfits as both soldiers and gym fighters, with the only really bad one being Jacqui's bizarre 'cyber' costume that somehow has become the template for nearly all of Cassie's skins in this game? That for me is what I can't understand.
 

Zviko

Noob
There's no point discussing what outfit makes sense for these fighters. This is MK where all of those can take multiple gun shots to the head and still fight like nothing happened. But this FGC' obsession with females showing as much skin as possible is kinda weird. :D
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
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But hasn't that been a feature since MK1? Sonya in her aerobics gear, Kano in his karate gi, Johnny in the Bloodsport shorts, Liu Kang in workout pants?

MK2 had Jax in his lycra, Johnny in his workout gear and high-ups that he still has as options to this day, Liu still just in his workout pants, Shang and Baraka in vests, the girls in lycra, Shao Kahn in a pair of speedos and some shoulder pads?

MK3 had Liu still in his workout pants, Sub Zero in lycra with suspenders, Sonya still in her aerobics gear, Sheeva in a mankini, Kung Lao in just a sash, Jax still in lycra, Nightwolf in lycra and a leather vest, Shang in lycra with suspenders, Shao Kahn still without any clothes on?

In MK11, I love seeing Shao Kahn having an array of new helmets and full-body samurai armour and I also love that he can be made old school in his speedos too. We can make Jax wear his dodgy lycra pants again. Johnny's got his old MK2 gear, Sonya's got a throwback to her MK1 aerobics gear by default in her array of clothing as well as her actual MK3 outfit for KP holders, Sindel and Cetrion are both spilling out of both of their costumes and Sindel's bodysuit is sexy as hell, Jade looks gorgeous in some of her outfits, Kitana does too, we've had the MK2 female ninja skins, I love Kold War Skarlet (which I concede is silly and ridiculous but looks fantastic), Liu Kang is still in his workout pants, so I don't really have much of an issue with the skins available in this game...

... except for Cassie and Jacqui who both largely look dreadful in this game. It's just about how they look, not how little they're wearing, and this is simply offering suggestions of in-character alternatives that follow the trend of what other characters have received in their selections and reflect their previous attires. It's like someone went out of their way to really change the characters from how they've been presented in the past. Both looked great in MKX and the comic, with an array of interesting outfits as both soldiers and gym fighters, with the only really bad one being Jacqui's bizarre 'cyber' costume that somehow has become the template for nearly all of Cassie's skins in this game? That for me is what I can't understand.
Yeah, I agree with you that most of the MK11 costumes are fine.

I'm not passing judgement on them either way -- I'm just pointing out that fighters being in UFC/Boxing/Fightsports attire has never really been a thing. In MK1 they just kind of used what they had lying around or could get cheaply, and since then it's mainly been fantasty-fighting gear with all kinds of robes, masks, headgear and combat/military stuff, rather than actual fightsports attire.

Usually their outfit has more to do with the story than something you'd actually wear into a boxing ring.
 

Vslayer

Curses in moose
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I mean, is that a skin for PC or something? Pretty sure people are already modding it
I think people make this in a 3d program? I don't know, either way, I just want her to have this muscle definition.
Her neck makes me think of The Land Before Time:

"Mother, what's a 'long neck'?"

Other than that, looks good.
LMFAO yeah she got a case of longneckatidis, I'm just drooling over the abs y'all know me.
 

GLoRToR

You're my fan if you can't stop shitposting me.
I think people make this in a 3d program? I don't know, either way, I just want her to have this muscle definition.
They extracted and edited her original model, yes.
What I'm asking is whether this has been an actual mod in game yet or not. If you know the source you can ask whoever made it.
 

Vslayer

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They extracted and edited her original model, yes.
What I'm asking is whether this has been an actual mod in game yet or not. If you know the source you can ask whoever made it.
Oh no, it just popped up on Reddit I'm not sure who made this.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
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I want to point out since MK 2 skins were on the store, I've seen wayyy more of them on all three Skarlet, Kit and Jade in the past 3 weeks online. Just saying lol.

Because the males are actually designed well. Jax, Johnny, Liu Kang, Kano this is the best they have ever looked.
That and those who make a big stink over the females only care about the "skin" on females and not the males who show a lot of skin. lol This still strikes me funny. But I'm glad NRS are like "hmm maybe we should respect the older fans too with some older skins" Let's hope we get UMK3 skins in the future, the MK 2 skins look amazing.
 
Usually their outfit has more to do with the story than something you'd actually wear into a boxing ring.
Which makes sense. MK1/2 were supposed to be tournaments so theoretically the fighters would be ready for that. Later games they're just fights, so they fight in whatever clothes they wear day to day.

Depending on how deep you want to get into it you could justify almost anything though.

Still doesn't mean that some of the outfits couldn't have a little more flare about them. I still don't understand why there's spacesuit cassie?!

But hasn't that been a feature since MK1? Sonya in her aerobics gear, Kano in his karate gi, Johnny in the Bloodsport shorts, Liu Kang in workout pants?
You can't compare what was in the old games. A big part of the look was due to what they had to work with given the filming/animation style they went with and the budget, which was probably crap.

The outfits couldn't be too complicated/elaborate or baggy otherwise it causes issues with the frame capture.

A better indication of what the initial aesthetic idea was is probably MK9. It's the same story but they've got the ability to flesh out the characters looks without being restricted by budget or technical restraints.

EG: Kitana - flowing things, princess-y, elaborate markings on her costume. Compared to a flat coloured onesie with no real interest. (although the look worked well with her ninja story)
Sonya - Special Op's character with belts, jacket, boots, instead of a green two piece.
Jax - more detail in the arms, belt, boots, pants etc., looks more military than a tight pair of lycra pants.

I want to point out since MK 2 skins were on the store, I've seen wayyy more of them on all three Skarlet, Kit and Jade in the past 3 weeks online. Just saying lol.
Because nostalgia sells. And frankly, kitana's skins are all pretty pathetic. Some of Jade's are nice and i probably prefer some of them over her classic. But again, nostalgia for the classic look.

If they gave Kitana an updated version of her MKX alternate (or even default), that would be my main, because again, almost all of hers are crap.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
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Because nostalgia sells. And frankly, kitana's skins are all pretty pathetic. Some of Jade's are nice and i probably prefer some of them over her classic. But again, nostalgia for the classic look.

If they gave Kitana an updated version of her MKX alternate (or even default), that would be my main, because again, almost all of hers are crap.
I think style and what's popular in demand sells, but yes paying homage to the klassics is very important because it tells and shows the fans of old(who are still alive) that they haven't forgotten about them. Much like with Injustice even though they're only 2 games in so far, you don't make a Superman outfit without the option to have a classic look with a legendary comic book character like that. With MK characters same thing while they're not as old as DC characters(well most of them anyway) the series is still over 25+ years now so as long as NRS gives the fans or fans like me anyway the option to have those klassic regardless if they're sexy or not to sport Kitana, Jade etc then let them have all the nun covered outfits they want as long as they offer variety.

I think Kitana has some nice looking outfits honestly, her Krypt one looks fine, her storyline one is fine and of course her MK 2 looks good. Not a huge fan of the ones that make her look fat or like an undead schoolgirl but I do like some others she has. I hope they let us get the russian Skarlet at some point.
 

Dankster Morgan

she don’t call me daddy she call me Grandmaster
The females should look more athletic and muscular. Cage, Scorpion, SZ, Liu, etc look like they would epically fuck you up. But the women really dont, when they could and should. Even though MK9 women basically looked like men with those jaw lines, they at least look like they can kick ass
 

Jynks

some heroes are born, some made, some wondrous
EDIT: The point of showing this post is to hopefully show NRS that muscular women don't look like dudes, and not every woman needs to have spaghetti arms, especially not the ones in the military when we all know they train like animals every day.
agreed.. a great example of this was the casting of the film Wonder Woman. WB had the opportunity to show a new kind of female body type by casting someone that looks the part, as in someone tall and muscular.. but instead we got the same skinny, supermodel type.

Wonder Woman should have looked like some of those cosplaying body builders or maybe a X UFC fighter like Gina Carano (from Mandelorian)