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Immortal

Blind justice....
Lets not complain about "too good online", coz it even sound well... like wtf?

I really would love to have netcode as good as KI has in MK X. One can dream.

Also Hisako and Cinder design is quite interesting.
 
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Deftonesrc

Electrical Engineering bitch!
By which I mean, there was hardly any input on the posts I made for tournament results be it online or offline, as well as the weekly textual streams released at the Ultra Combo forums. Sometimes the input fluctuated with new characters and sometimes it didn't.

And then of course, along came the typical bashing. "This game isn't as good as *insert game title here,*" or "It should be on *insert console name here*," and so on.

TYM may have been founded on the basis of supporting NRS titles, but I think we could gain so much from not disallowing others to venture outside of their boundaries in regards to the games they play. Sadly, almost no-one was on board. *shrugs*

I'll stop so as not to derail the thread. With MKX coming, it'll quickly overtake all other supported titles here and that is understandable. I'm hype for it myself.
For what it's worth, I always appreciated your coverage. I love KI man, it's such a great game. I honestly think it has honed my FG skills a bit, specifically my defense.
 

Onilordasmodeus

My GT: UncappedWheel82
How well is KI selling? Like the passes and all
Looks cool for KI fans
They haven't talked sales, but they do say that KI is doing well. At Final Round there were 66 entrants, and of those some of the "regulars" didn't come, but other new faces did.
Well, blame Microsoft for that one, not TYM.
I don't think he was blaming anyone, just making a point, but for you to "blame" MS for people on TYM (you) choosing not to play KI is kind of dumb. Either you like the game or not. KI is quality, but if you are a PS4 fan at the end of the day and don't want to try the game, that is your prerogative.

I don't want to turn this into a console war thread or anything as you should really just support what games and systems you like, but if you like FGs, I think it is worth it to play/support what you can, and not bash / shame one game or another based on personal preferences that you have, which ultimately don't really have anything to do with said game.
 

Duck Nation

Dicks with a future
@RM JagoBlake The point really was that having it locked to a single, brand-new console was pretty much instantly killing its hope of a real competitive community. You can't blame TYM or its members for a game being hilariously inaccessible.

@Pig Of The Hut To be honest, a game having a good online experience seems to prove exactly the opposite of what you assert. The largest and most valuable e-sports games in the world are ones that have very robust online; people are expected to get good there before they ever even have a hope of competing in events. They even sometimes play legitimate, serious tournament matches there, especially for FPS. Fighters are alone in simply leveling the expectation that you must be offline to even begin to be taken seriously.
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
I actually don't think this is such a bad thing. My job makes me travel a lot to foreign countries, and I find tournament people to be largely... Unbathed lol (slightly kidding here). Being able to enjoy this game online with nigh zero lag is a dream come true after the torture of MK9. If MKX has great net play, I don't have to waste my money/time on any tournament expenses
Don't get me wrong. It's a great thing that IG keeps up with their players and events, but I feel it promotes, "this is good enough." Which, no offense, is exactly what you're saying right now, lol. The environment of a tournament alone can change the way you play given the noise, nerves, having someone sitting right next to you, etc. That will never fully be replaced, even with godlike net play. Personally, I want a challenge like that. Staying at home makes it easier on yourself and will limit the level of players you face. Just my $.2.
 

Deftonesrc

Electrical Engineering bitch!
They haven't talked sales, but they do say that KI is doing well. At Final Round there were 66 entrants, and of those some of the "regulars" didn't come, but other new faces did.


I don't think he was blaming anyone, just making a point, but for you to "blame" MS for people on TYM (you) choosing not to play KI is kind of dumb. Either you like the game or not. KI is quality, but if you are a PS4 fan at the end of the day and don't want to try the game, that is your prerogative.

I don't want to turn this into a console war thread or anything as you should really just support what games and systems you like, but if you like FGs, I think it is worth it to play/support what you can, and not bash / shame one game or another based on personal preferences that you have, which ultimately don't really have anything to do with said game.
I agree with your sentiment. I just play games I like. Since there are games I like on both Xbox and playstation I have both. And Wii for when people come over for drinks ;)
 

Vagrant

Champion
For what it's worth, I always appreciated your coverage. I love KI man, it's such a great game. I honestly think it has honed my FG skills a bit, specifically my defense.
It has GREATLY improved my play in fighting games. From wake up logic to footsies to spacing to truly understanding how to truly maneuver in back to block games, it has helped me a ton. Especially with the replay system and hitbox display.

I found street fighter made a lot more sense and I could recognize situations easier after training KI off and on for a year. My movement in all fighting games improved as well.
 

Deftonesrc

Electrical Engineering bitch!
Don't get me wrong. It's a great thing that IG keeps up with their players and events, but I feel it promotes, "this is good enough." Which, no offense, is exactly what you're saying right now, lol. The environment of a tournament alone can change the way you play given the noise, nerves, having someone sitting right next to you, etc. That will never fully be replaced, even with godlike net play. Personally, I want a challenge like that. Staying at home makes it easier on yourself and will limit the level of players you face. Just my $.2.
Yeah, I mean I agree with what you are saying, but my personal view is that tournaments aren't really all that exciting to me. I've a mortgage and a career to maintain, so allocating time for a digital comic-con isn't where I want to put my resources. But I still enjoy the game and the competitive nature it brings, so having online is an outlet for me. I would argue (based on tournament numbers relative to sales) that having a genuine venue to get good at a game (ie online) can do nothing but spark interest in these events.

I guess my point is that I don't enjoy waiting in lines to ride a roller coaster, so it stands to reason I don't want to sit and wait my turn to play a good match in a tournament. It's just my preference I suppose.
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
It has GREATLY improved my play in fighting games. From wake up logic to footsies to spacing to truly understanding how to truly maneuver in back to block games, it has helped me a ton. Especially with the replay system and hitbox display.

I found street fighter made a lot more sense and I could recognize situations easier after training KI off and on for a year. My movement in all fighting games improved as well.
How about dat Dojo? That alone can improve someones understanding of fighting games. I've never seen anything like it in another fighting game. It flat out teaches you REAL combos, how to anti air, play defense, basically everything really well. Because of that I've seen way more people anti airing and playing at a very basic level of fundamentals more so than any other game online. It was smart.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
@RM JagoBlake The point really was that having it locked to a single, brand-new console was pretty much instantly killing its hope of a real competitive community. You can't blame TYM or its members for a game being hilariously inaccessible.

@Pig Of The Hut To be honest, a game having a good online experience seems to prove exactly the opposite of what you assert. The largest and most valuable e-sports games in the world are ones that have very robust online; people are expected to get good there before they ever even have a hope of competing in events. They even sometimes play legitimate, serious tournament matches there, especially for FPS. Fighters are alone in simply leveling the expectation that you must be offline to even begin to be taken seriously.
I'm very much pro online
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
Yeah, I mean I agree with what you are saying, but my personal view is that tournaments aren't really all that exciting to me. I've a mortgage and a career to maintain, so allocating time for a digital comic-con isn't where I want to put my resources. But I still enjoy the game and the competitive nature it brings, so having online is an outlet for me. I would argue (based on tournament numbers relative to sales) that having a genuine venue to get good at a game (ie online) can do nothing but spark interest in these events.

I guess my point is that I don't enjoy waiting in lines to ride a roller coaster, so it stands to reason I don't want to sit and wait my turn to play a good match in a tournament. It's just my preference I suppose.
Well, there is nothing to debate about here. You like what you like and it's not my duty to convince you to prove yourself to such a point you need to travel and enter tournaments. If that's not what you want, well that's not what you want. I do agree about online possibly bringing more exposure to tournaments.....as long as the developers advertise it on the game menu or something....like KI, but minus the online ones lol.
 

Deftonesrc

Electrical Engineering bitch!
Well, there is nothing to debate about here. You like what you like and it's not my duty to convince you to prove yourself to such a point you need to travel and enter tournaments. If that's not what you want, well that's not what you want.
But more to your point, I really enjoy watching tournaments. I hope to see you play some soon :)

I'll certainly cheer for you good sir
 

Onilordasmodeus

My GT: UncappedWheel82
@RM JagoBlake The point really was that having it locked to a single, brand-new console was pretty much instantly killing its hope of a real competitive community. You can't blame TYM or its members for a game being hilariously inaccessible.
There is actually a pretty good possibility that KI will come to the PC in the coming year or so (at least that is the hope), so accessibility should open up over time if that is indeed the case. That being said, again, he wasn't blaming anyone for anything, the "blame game" started with the comment in response to Blake's.

Regardless, if people don't want to get an Xbox for this reason of that one, that is fine, but why bash a game just because you don't like the platform it is on? KI is a beast of a game, and IMO, it, and its' devs, deserve respect. To see someone bash it just because [insert arbitrary reason that doesn't have anything to do with the game here] is kind of dumb. If you don't want an Xbox, and thus won't / can't play KI, that is fine...unfortunate (as IMO you are missing out), but fine.

PS

It has always bothered me that so many on TYM think MK "deserves respect in the FGC," but then they go around bashing this game or that one just because... Why is that? You would think that because MK was, and to some extent still is, the red-headed step child of the FGC, and was for so long, that people would be more attuned with other communities and/or games that are / were in a similar boat. Guess not.
 

Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
Saying something has too good online sounds kinda of silly since I've read a thread hoping MKX online is good. If I would have got an xbox, I would def have played KI unitl MKX drops. She looks pretty cool so does Cinder.