And also what do you mean by fast mids? I was playing a Highborne as Cassie literally right after I made this post and my f4 wasn’t the end all be all. I still had to make the read on when she was going to end it and if I was wrong I would get poked.
Most Kitana players have been saying that Highborn is a very strong variation. Hell, Khaotic and I said so even before some the universal buffs. However, to suggest that the character is playing a different game than the other characters is inaccurate in my opinion. Admittedly, she has a myriad of strengths, but she also has conspicuous weaknesses such as slow mid attacks in comparison to the rest of the cast. I would also argue that she requires more skill than people believe as you want to extend the block advantage on razors as much as possible, which is not easy to accomplish consistently, and play a fundamentally sound zoning and anti-zoning game with fans, sais, and dive kicks.
I agree with everything your saying. My main point in saying that variation plays the game differently than others is based mostly on the random frame advantage guessing game. And yes, getting the +1 on block will never be consistent, but that’s not really the point. The fact that it CAN be +1 or -5 is the unnerving part. Not to mention the third fan that can still hit you. She does have slow mids, yes. But this variation isn’t playing neutral all that often, and it’s not difficult for her to get her turn back.
9-11 frame mids are considered the fastest in the game. If you block them standing, you can back dash the third fan and her poke and start your offense. Characters with fast backlashes like sub, johnny or Cetrion can actually punish her for it.
I'm more so pointing out your lack of knowledge of the whiners on twitter compared to the upplayers here, and trust me, there are a lot on both ends.
I agree about the "random" frame data on the razors, but this point is not necessarily related to the neutral game. I would argue she plays an effective neutral game because of fans, aerial fans, b+2, d+4, jumping kick, etc. which is no different from other characters who control space very well (i.e., Cetrion, Geras, Johnny Cage, and Liu Kang).
I literally learned about the cancel yesterday, she caught me off guard with it but nothing too serious
Yeah but a lot of good Highborne players seldom cancel. It’s not an integral part of her pressure.
Yeah, the special doesn’t have much to do with the neutral in and of itself, but once she is in. Resetting to neutral is a rare occurrence. You’re going to have to deal with the weird pressure from fan spin and it will be a guessing game to get her off of you. Which is typical as far as pressure characters go, like Liu or Jacqui, but this type of pressure is just mindless “string into special, guess when I’m going to stop hope I get the right frames” the variations game plan just feels off. And the reason it feels that way, is because, well, it is off. The random frames really should be fixed.
Even if the block advantage varies between 5 frames flawless blocks are pretty generous and have zero risk on reversal as long as you don‘t block too late because you can os u2. Worst case Kitana‘s just blocking the poke and it‘s her turn again anyway.
"Cool" is subjective. Besides, you never see them in tournaments because they are weak variations. Semiij did try Fanfare at Final Kombat but could barely win a round. I doubt the most recent buffs will make much of a difference. The razors and half blood stance and its moves complement how Kitana wants to play in almost every match. As Kitana players, we ought to appreciate the fact that we have a top tier variation in Highborn instead of complaining about nuances.
Fuck Highborn. It can become new Upgraded and be top 1 by far, I'm not touching it.
YEAH! We’re playing for fun, not for playing top tier bullshit. I play Leroy in Tekken though and I decided to main him the moment he was announced, that didn’t go well. Hope Fahkumram is more balanced, but that’s another subject
This is the attitude we all need to adopt if we want our character to get juicy buffs
No.
laughs in razors
