Tech Harley Quinn 50/50 Mix Up

[Laos_boy]

Here's another set up. This is a ghetto frame trap. You can duck after the 11 in 112. Then the forth hit will Whiff.
She needs buffs

Tell me What you think?

 

[xWEBSx]

I like it

 

[Laos_boy]

Any other thoughts?

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[Brahma]

Wait, so if they block low during the stun then the f1 hits them?

 

[Burgesssssss]

Yes the f1 will hit them. They still block low attacks as normal, but their hitbox is in standing position, not ducking position.

 

[Laos_boy]

Wait, so if they block low during the stun then the f1 hits them?

Correct

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[Burgesssssss]

If they're blocking high or low it will still be blocked though, it just won't whiff cause the hitbox is standing.

 

[DiZzyPhyZiks]

This is pretty sick, getting someone to stoP blocking low against harley is always good! Too bad f1 is a high tho

*edit
Upon further investigation. This is sicker than i thought. The speed and range at which harley can throw 50/50s with this added to her arsenal is really very nice. Whiffed f1 and a nice leap into the overhead for a stagger or frame advantage. I never thought id be able to train an opponent to block harley standing util i saw this string back to back like that. Hit or block, youre probly opening someone up off this

 

[Brahma]

Sorry, I meant to ask if they are in hit stun, will holding D allow them to block the high.

Part of the problem, there's no good way to set it up without hitting f12 in the first place. I'm not willing to use it off a jumpin since I'd rather go for damage with b22~TS, etc. It does have decent range though, enough that you can usually connect it after a blocked b/f3 as long as then don't attack with something that beats you.

Once it does hit, I think it's fairly easy for people to just block the f1 and then react to the 2 overhead or TS. You may catch someone unaware once or twice, but once they see it, it becomes much less useful.

 

[Deleted member 9158]

that's some slick shit there, good find.

 

[xWEBSx]

Sorry, I meant to ask if they are in hit stun, will holding D allow them to block the high.

Part of the problem, there's no good way to set it up without hitting f12 in the first place. I'm not willing to use it off a jumpin since I'd rather go for damage with b22~TS, etc. It does have decent range though, enough that you can usually connect it after a blocked b/f3 as long as then don't attack with something that beats you.

Once it does hit, I think it's fairly easy for people to just block the f1 and then react to the 2 overhead or TS. You may catch someone unaware once or twice, but once they see it, it becomes much less useful.

Ahhh if only F1 hit mid and crouched... Even on block, the F3 is coming!!

It takes balls , but the whiffed F1.....

Wait wait wait.......
You know how Grundy Whiffs. Standing move on downed opponents to get in optimal range for his throw? Almost like whiffing to make you panic.. The as soon as you get up.. You eat it...

Can Harley whiff her F1, waiting for that wake up then as they rise hop forward with that F3 and get the overhead in their wake up?

 

[DiZzyPhyZiks]

Might as well go for F2-TS1 in that situation

 

[AZ MotherBrain]

I can dig it.

 

[Burgesssssss]

xWEBSx Yes she can make the f1 whiff and have the 3 still connect. Only works against wakeups without invulnerability though.

 

[Laos_boy]

Guys I found more options for this too work. I'm posting a video. In a bit

 

[Laos_boy]

So apparently 112 into f1 jails standing and is uninterruptible.

xWEBSx
Burgesssssss
SonicFox5000
DiZzyPhyZiks

 

[Burgesssssss]

oOoOoOo. Interesting. Loves me some ghetto frame traps.

Who's stand blocking Harley to get it to jail though?

Unrelated question while we're here. Does anyone have the timing down for landing b121 PD after a Super Move combo in the corner? It's been my nemesis for the past hour D:

*Even More Editing* It seems only the last gunshot of 2 jails the opponent to stand block. They can switch to low block while blocking the 1,1 and the first gunshot of 2.

 

[Laos_boy]

oOoOoOo. Interesting. Loves me some ghetto frame traps.

*Even More Editing* It seems only the last gunshot of 2 jails the opponent to stand block. They can switch to low block while blocking the 1,1 and the first gunshot of 2.

Yeah I wish her over head was faster. It would make this tech more viable. Standing 2 looks like it would be and over head.

I can't get b121 either.
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[DiZzyPhyZiks]

Nice. The thing is shes always had these alternate frame traps to 2D3 but theyre sooo easy to poke her out of. Still, i like this option against people who have seen her stuff.

 

[Katt]

How does 112 jail to f13? 112 is +9 on block, f1 comes out at 14f. This should give your opponent 5 frames to duck.

 

[Burgesssssss]

You'd think, but for some reason you can't lol Maybe 112 is more than +9?

 

[Laos_boy]

How does 112 jail to f13? 112 is +9 on block, f1 comes out at 14f. This should give your opponent 5 frames to duck.

That was my reaction. But killer frost parry didn't interrupt it and that 1 frame

 

[Laos_boy]

You'd think, but for some reason you can't lol Maybe 112 is more than +9?

The block frame advantage for multiple hitting moves are wrong remember

 

[nightE89]

OOOOO this is some dirty stuff i like it, def gonna hit the gym to try this out nice find.

Unrelated question while we're here. Does anyone have the timing down for landing b121 PD after a Super Move combo in the corner? It's been my nemesis for the past hour D:

I feel ur pain I still have problems with this, I usually end it with the J3, DB1

 

[Brahma]

112 f12 doesn't jail. You can duck at any time during either of the strings, the last hit of 112 does not force stand. Always record your setups then play back to test them, because practice mode settings have a lot of issues. I think KF is standing because you have her set to reversal.