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Glacius is the weakest in the game!

JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
hahahah you just wasted 8 mins of my life :16Bit Thank you!

edit: what you did was throw, instinct mode and then the unblockable ofc is gonna hit him but it still doesnt combo off the throw bc you cancel it with IM lol you are funny, keep it coming.

doing shatter will hit regardless bc its an unblockable so it doesnt matter if you activate IM or not. you just activated IM then shatter thats why it hit.
Then you didn't pay attention. Go back watch the video and look for these things.

#1 you can see that I was using medium shatter then whole time. If I did a forward grab then tried medium shatter without instinct (you said it doesn't matter) it would come up way short. Only heavy shatter can fulfill that role to be the unblockable off the forward grab. Medium shatter cannot.

#2 When I grabbed him went into instinct then did medium shatter why did shatter give two hits instead of one. Also you can clearly see when the first medium shatter hits after the grab why does my combo meter say hits 2 and 3. Meaning the grab counts as the first hit.

If this is not-grabbing an opponent-going into instinct-then continuing the combo-then I cant help you because you can clearly that's what I did. You may not want to except it but that is exactly what Orochi said Glacius couldn't do. Grab an opponent midscreen-go in to instinct-then continue to combo, but that's what I just did.

Really!!! Look at it closely!!!
 

Posthuman

Where's TJ Combo?
Then you didn't pay attention. Go back watch the video and look for these things.

#1 you can see that I was using medium shatter then whole time. If I did a forward grab then tried medium shatter without instinct (you said it doesn't matter) it would come up way short. Only heavy shatter can fulfill that role to be the unblockable off the forward grab. Medium shatter cannot.

#2 When I grabbed him went into instinct then did medium shatter why did shatter give two hits instead of one. Also you can clearly see when the first medium shatter hits after the grab why does my combo meter say hits 2 and 3. Meaning the grab counts as the first hit.

If this is not-grabbing an opponent-going into instinct-then continuing the combo-then I cant help you because you can clearly that's what I did. You may not want to except it but that is exactly what Orochi said Glacius couldn't do. Grab an opponent midscreen-go in to instinct-then continue to combo, but that's what I just did.

Really!!! Look at it closely!!!
With that quality is kinda hard. Record it to skydrive and just post the link here.

If it can be done is not viable at all. It took you 8 mins trying, in real matches your opponent wont give you that privilege!
 
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JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
With that quality is kinda hard. Record it to skydrive and just post the link here.

If it can be done is not viable at all. It took you 8 mins trying in real matches your opponent wont give you that privilege!
Ya, sorry about the poor quality. All I have to record with is my phone.

Yes, you are absolutely right. It is most likely not viable at high levels of play. I am not trying to be a jurk; I am just saying it's possible.

Try it yourself then let me know what you think.

Again, sorry for the poor quality and if I came off abrasive. I just put so much work into it.

God Bless!!!
 

Orochi

Scorpion Scrub
@Orochi @Posthuman

Well, I guess you guys are officially on blast!!! JK, but seriously this is really difficult to do and the main trick is timing the instinct then immediately buffering shatter-NOT AUTO DOUBLES!!!

Orochi, if I am not mistaken this is what you were saying Glacius couldn't do? However you could still be talking about something else.


I have to get back to it. Peace!!!
Good stuff, seeing this I assume auto doubles is also possible, it's just VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY strict timing but it is possible then, I tried it for about 10 minutes and got it to work once lol. After our talk last night though I figured out it was very easy to do with a hail setup, here's a video showing what I mean might be worth it if you get the setup working.

 

JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
Good stuff, seeing this I assume auto doubles is also possible, it's just VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY strict timing but it is possible then, I tried it for about 10 minutes and got it to work once lol. After our talk last night though I figured out it was very easy to do with a hail setup, here's a video showing what I mean might be worth it if you get the setup working.

Wow, your video quality is alot better than mine. Yes, I knew about using hail to do it but that would have seemed like cheating; giving the conversation we were have.

Again, I am not trying to be brash. Just saying that it could be done.

Thanks, and much respect to you Orochi.
 

JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
Good stuff, seeing this I assume auto doubles is also possible, it's just VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY strict timing but it is possible then, I tried it for about 10 minutes and got it to work once lol. After our talk last night though I figured out it was very easy to do with a hail setup, here's a video showing what I mean might be worth it if you get the setup working.

Really liked the second setup on your video. That just might be worth keeping. Because lets face it. Most of this is just to difficult to do in a really match. However, that second combo setup you had is legit.
 

Posthuman

Where's TJ Combo?
While its kinda cool I just dont think its worth it. Nice find but not gonna waste my time practicing something that isnt viable.

@Orochi I think if hail hits you dont have to activate IM to be able to combo. Just do any range combos when hail hits, I dont think you did the actual set up we were talking about.

@JHCRANE 14 you know if you have an X1 you can just use the record feature and upload it to skydrive then get the link post it here or download the vid and upload it to youtube. In training mode you gotta use the kinect to say "xbox record that" to record 25 seconds.
 
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JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
While its kinda cool I just dont think its worth it. Nice find but not gonna waste my time practicing something that isnt viable.

@Orochi I think if hail hits you dont have to activate IM to be able to combo. Just do any range combos when hail hits, I dont think you did the actual set up we were talking about.

@JHCRANE 14 you know if you have an X1 you can just use the record feature and upload it to skydrive then get the link post it here or download the vid and upload it to youtube. In training mode you gotta use the kinect to say "xbox record that" to record 25 seconds.
Okay, gotcha!!!
 

JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
While its kinda cool I just dont think its worth it. Nice find but not gonna waste my time practicing something that isnt viable.

@Orochi I think if hail hits you dont have to activate IM to be able to combo. Just do any range combos when hail hits, I dont think you did the actual set up we were talking about.

@JHCRANE 14 you know if you have an X1 you can just use the record feature and upload it to skydrive then get the link post it here or download the vid and upload it to youtube. In training mode you gotta use the kinect to say "xbox record that" to record 25 seconds.
Also, I do understand that alot of this isn't viable but I just like to push characters to the extreme and break them.
 
(*Awesome shit*)
Holy shit lol.

Also, an observation, it looks like you had an easier time doing it off a forward throw. It took you like 6 minutes of doing back-throws, but you got it pretty consistently with a forward throw.

I know with Sabrewulf for example, his back-throw has 3 frames more advantage than his forward throw, and also has a different distance between him and the enemy afterwards. It's possible Glacius gets more advantage off his forward throw.
 

JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
Good stuff, seeing this I assume auto doubles is also possible, it's just VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY strict timing but it is possible then, I tried it for about 10 minutes and got it to work once lol. After our talk last night though I figured out it was very easy to do with a hail setup, here's a video showing what I mean might be worth it if you get the setup working.

Tough loss at Winter Brawl 8. You almost had Floe and he has got a really good Sadira. Yes, Sadira clearly is favored over Glacius, but it just goes to show anybody can win. If you read correctly all characters have a chance.

Great fight my friend. Way to make the Glacius community proud.
 
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Vinci212

Hungry Game Dev
I agree with most you said even if you insulted my intelligence and skills.

I get what you are saving, I mostly do all those things you mention. Glacius is a really good balanced char on an unbalanced game.
Now this isnt me saying the game is actually unbalanced just that in KI3 most char have really OP tools which balances everything out since most chars do. Glacius in the other hand doesnt and that is why he struggles so much vs all 6 chars.

Btw I never ever get hit by Jagos windkick on a neutral game!
Took me long to respond, been setting up my new place, internet, furniture, ugh... anyways

Didn't mean to offend you, just wanted to present what I knew, Glacius could definitely benefit from having the properties of puddle punch changed, and it definitely stinks how identifiable all his autos etc are (I wonder if each animation was made specifically for game play balancing and tuned for player recognition) In my personal opinion I think the animators would have had an absolute fit if they couldn't put their own flair into some of his moves. (Honestly his move set is one of the best looking aesthetically imo.) But this brings up a good question for fighting game development, since the art and design are painfully tied to the hip at what point should a studio/developer sacrifice the aesthetic to bring the game to a complete balance? One animator wanting to make something look cool can theoretically change the meta of a game if he polishes one move a little further than others.

Either way, I am down to grind out matches like I said before, players on these forums need to carry the flame of KI and injustice for the good of the genre in the next 5 years - and the more that is discovered in the existing KI content on Xbone will help developers shape the game into a better polish when they have the funds and attention to do so.
 
Results from SoCal Regionals 2014

Killer Instinct

1. Mr Grimmmz (Jago)
2. NYChrisG (Sabrewulf)
3. DramanKuritani (Sadira, Orchid)
4. Big Robawt (Glacius, Thunder)
5. FRQ|Steeeve (Sabrewulf)
5. EG|PR Balrog (Sadira)
7. Hitbox|Godspeed (Glacius)
7. Maximillian (Sabrewulf)