Future of MKX on PC; MKXL Enhanced Online PC BETA

[chris999]

Man I always try to be calm but this thread has way many trolls. First of all there is no console war or pc war or whatever you wanna call it. Gaming is the same thing in every device. I will say that just once, inside your console there is a CPU, an HDD, a GPU, RAM memory and so on... the only thing that you don't have in common with another pc gamer is the operating system and the external case that has a logo of sony/microsoft/etc...

Secondly, I can't stand any more the fact that people are trying to justify that dropping support for a port title or decide on exclusive content after launch is a wise move. You want to talk with numbers I ll give them to you with 3 examples I just found easily on Internet

- Capcom resident evil 5:
6.9 million copies sold on consoles, pc sales enough low that they don't even bother to mention, guess what gold edition+all DLCs come to PC as well.

- Konami pes 2015 :
let's see the sales as percentages for Q1, consoles:98% PC: 2%
Q2, consoles : 90%, PC: 10%, but all of a sudden all datapacks + online support for PC too

- EA sports fifa 15 :
sales at launch, consoles: 99% PC: 1% , proper online support until now I think(I checked it 10 days ago)

You want me to continue the list of decent pc ports? So you say that companies do things just for money and as soon as their profits are low they abandon a platform... So guess what NO. When you are a big company even if you sell on a platform 1%, 2%, 5%, 10%, or whatever you consider low, you continue to support it, because you made the decision to invest in this platform. WB during the first months of arkham knight and MKX release became the NUMBER ONE 3rd party publisher globally selling 10 million copies totally and you feel the need to come here and defend such a move from them? Are you guys crazy or something? Then what kind of attitude are you willing to tolerate from companies with real problems and poor economics?

Let me tell you something you feel pretty secure with your next-gen console and you want to pretend the smart guy inside this thread, with these arguments what do you believe is coming next? Maybe a kombat pack 3 but this time exclusive only for the console with the biggest sales on xl edition right? I am pretty sure you wouldn't be so eloquent if that was the case.

 

[Jedimindtricks]

Man I always try to be calm but this thread has way many trolls. First of all there is no console war or pc war or whatever you wanna call it. Gaming is the same thing in every device. I will say that just once, inside your console there is a CPU, an HDD, a GPU, RAM memory and so on... the only thing that you don't have in common with another pc gamer is the operating system and the external case that has a logo of sony/microsoft/etc...

Secondly, I can't stand any more the fact that people are trying to justify that dropping support for a port title or decide on exclusive content after launch is a wise move. You want to talk with numbers I ll give them to you with 3 examples I just found easily on Internet

- Capcom resident evil 5:
6.9 million copies sold on consoles, pc sales enough low that they don't even bother to mention, guess what gold edition+all DLCs come to PC as well.

- Konami pes 2015 :
let's see the sales as percentages for Q1, consoles:98% PC: 2%
Q2, consoles : 90%, PC: 10%, but all of a sudden all datapacks + online support for PC too

- EA sports fifa 15 :
sales at launch, consoles: 99% PC: 1% , proper online support until now I think(I checked it 10 days ago)

You want me to continue the list of decent pc ports? So you say that companies do things just for money and as soon as their profits are low they abandon a platform... So guess what NO. When you are a big company even if you sell on a platform 1%, 2%, 5%, 10%, or whatever you consider low, you continue to support it, because you made the decision to invest in this platform. WB during the first months of arkham knight and MKX release became the NUMBER ONE 3rd party publisher globally selling 10 million copies totally and you feel the need to come here and defend such a move from them? Are you guys crazy or something? Then what kind of attitude are you willing to tolerate from companies with real problems and poor economics?

Let me tell you something you feel pretty secure with your next-gen console and you want to pretend the smart guy inside this thread, with these arguments what do you believe is coming next? Maybe a kombat pack 3 but this time exclusive only for the console with the biggest sales on xl edition right? I am pretty sure you wouldn't be so eloquent if that was the case.

I bet anything PS3 and 360 versions would have outsold PC. And where are they? Those people were told it was coming, preordered and shat on. And you PC players have the gall to cry about a Kombat Pack? Have some perspective.

 

[Rizz091]

I bet anything PS3 and 360 versions would have outsold PC. And where are they? Those people were told it was coming, preordered and shat on. And you PC players have the gall to cry about a Kombat Pack? Have some perspective.

Omg you apologists aren't out of this thread yet? The BIG BIG difference here is that PS3 and 360 owners didn't buy the game then get the shaft down the line. Like seriously how little perspective do you have to even compare this? There's a good handful of players out there who bought the pc version after seeing KP2 and then later on found out it isn't coming for PC. And it's not just the Kombat Pack. We're lead to believe no GGPO enhancements, and no new balance patches. PC players will effectively have an outdated version of the game. That means any tournament players, are now dead in the water if they play on PC. Players who already invested tons of time and money into the game just got told to hold that. And with nothing more than a sentence. You really think that's ok? You really think we shouldn't be upset? Get a grip!

Seriously show support to your fellow gamer, or gtfo! You seriously have the nerve to tell us to have perspective? How sick can you get? And I feel for those 360 and PS3 owners who didn't get to have MKX, but to compare it to this? That's just plain asinine, get a grip, and keep your stupid opinion to yourself next time. The only thing in the wrong here is the company who made this decision. If you are stupid enough to defend that, you've got some serious masochism issues. We're the CONSUMER! We can whine all we want about shady business practices. That's how capitalism works! You either deliver, or you get hurt in the wallet. And they sure as hell aren't getting another cent from me after this.

 

[Jedimindtricks]

Omg you apologists aren't out of this thread yet? The BIG BIG difference here is that PS3 and 360 owners didn't buy the game then get the shaft down the line. Like seriously how little perspective do you have to even compare this? There's a good handful of players out there who bought the pc version after seeing KP2 and then later on found out it isn't coming for PC. And it's not just the Kombat Pack. We're lead to believe no GGPO enhancements, and no new balance patches. PC players will effectively have an outdated version of the game. That means any tournament players, are now dead in the water if they play on PC. Players who already invested tons of time and money into the game just got told to hold that. And with nothing more than a sentence. You really think that's ok? You really think we shouldn't be upset? Get a grip!

Seriously show support to your fellow gamer, or gtfo! You seriously have the nerve to tell us to have perspective? How sick can you get? And I feel for those 360 and PS3 owners who didn't get to have MKX, but to compare it to this? That's just plain asinine, get a grip, and keep your stupid opinion to yourself next time. The only thing in the wrong here is the company who made this decision. If you are stupid enough to defend that, you've got some serious masochism issues. We're the CONSUMER! We can whine all we want about shady business practices. That's how capitalism works! You either deliver, or you get hurt in the wallet. And they sure as hell aren't getting another cent from me after this.

Yes I'm comparing it to this because you weren't ever promised those things were coming to PC. From the first KP2 pack ads onward PC was not mentioned. NRS promised last gen consoles the game before AND after it was released. They outright lied to them.

You? You got what you paid for. The balance is even. You paid for a product and got it. Not only did you get it, but they even had it worked on when you said it wasn't good enough, something they didn't have to do.

 

[bluesdealer]

No use in feeding up this silly war comrades

 

[Ryncage]

This thread got real degenerate real fast.

So @ the on topic arguements for the last 5 or so pages.
Yes, the TOS for steam and pc games in general are complete shyte and fug over the community in a very large way, for example:
Wb and nrs are in no way liable or required to issue refunds, fix broken content, or release future content.
Hidden behind that large wall of text everyone "i agree" 's, are s series of conditions that covers their ass in every way possible. From false advertising (it wasnt a lie at one point so its okay) to just dropping all support regardless of the games condition.

But just because its legal doesnt make it right, acceptable, or tolerable.

But that entire subject in general is up for debate. What started as a way to protect buisnesses from bullshit lawsuits turned into a way to fuck over consumers at little to no risk from the developer.

 

[ShArp]

Not really MKX related but more like "WB continues dropping PC support" related: WB cancels Mac/Linux version of Arkham Knight - refunds on Steam are already available.

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/batman-arkham-knight-canceled-for-maclinux/1100-6434487/

 

[Charybdis]

What the fuck is wrong with this community? Why are people so insistent on giving shit and refusing to support their peers?

Jesus, there are some insanely toxic people in this community.

 

[Barrogh]

What the fuck is wrong with this community? Why are people so insistent on giving shit and refusing to support their peers?

Jesus, there are some insanely toxic people in this community.

It's not really this community, platform wars and everything related are ancient and aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Darth-Nero]

ITT:
Trolls
Troll feeders
Complainers about both

Seriously, i wouldn't get pissed if mods merged this thread with the rant thread at this point. This is just depressing.

 

[Barrogh]

ITT:
Trolls
Troll feeders
Complainers about both

Seriously, i wouldn't get pissed if mods merged this thread with the rant thread at this point. This is just depressing.

What quality content would you like to see here though?
We were given hard info, that's really it. Time to go to another game until further notice (if it will ever come at all ofc).

 

[ermonski]

^^we have Street Fighter V to be occupied with while waiting for further announcements from NRS and WB regardling KP2, GGPO and MKXL for the PC.

anybody here who played on the beta? Chun-Li's cr. HP needs some nerfing, lots of players online spam that move. It's a good pressure tool, though!

 

[xenogorgeous]

yep, we all gonna burn time playing KI and SF5 for PC, until WB/NRS officially declare that :

1) MKX maybe will receive at one year forward in future, the KP2 DLC treatment and the GGPO EO enhancements (think about kinda more or less like MK9 scenario where the PC version only come out long time later after the consoles versions ...)

or .....

2) We got entirely screwed indeed, and MKX for PC is a dead dog already without any chance to have new stuff, and we are the donkeys that were fooled ..... hehe

 

[Rizz091]

^^we have Street Fighter V to be occupied with while waiting for further announcements from NRS and WB regardling KP2, GGPO and MKXL for the PC.

anybody here who played on the beta? Chun-Li's cr. HP needs some nerfing, lots of players online spam that move. It's a good pressure tool, though!

I loved the beta, got me way more excited for the release. Ggpo netcode feels amazing. I can actually hit my links, the gameplay rewards good gameplay, instead of scrubby gameplay, risk reward is done well, and good footsies will win you matches.

I forgot what button that is. Her back hp is pretty ridiculous though. That crush counters everything lol. You can't hit too many buttons when she's in that footsie range.

 

[Korvin]

Did they disable already servers on pc lol ?

 

[Juxtapose]

Did they disable already servers on pc lol ?

No. The only things that have happened so far is it's confirmed the PC version is not getting Kombat Pack 2, the "komplete" version of the game (Mortal Kombat XL), and the rollback netcode beta.

It's unknown at this time if the PC version will get the rollback netcode and future balance updates.

 

[Brutal Chimney]

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/69199/20160128/mortal-kombat-x-kombat-pack-2-pc-cancellation-netherrealm-warner-bros-email.htm

 

[VerminatorX]

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/69199/20160128/mortal-kombat-x-kombat-pack-2-pc-cancellation-netherrealm-warner-bros-email.htm

Whoa.. I bet that WB employee ho wrote this email got kicked out of the job for a houndred miles lol.

 

[chris999]

Thank you for bringing back the issue of WB responses. If any of you also read some other mails leaked from people who own the game inside WB community's forum, you will see that right now they answer with a generic response and for the people who asked them to forward the mails to the developers the response is the same : "we are really sorry...Kp2 and Xl edition are not currently coming out for pc and we can't give you information about the possibility for a future release..."
So either buying time negotiating with QLOC or other companies who do pc ports, or they have decided to ignore everything that has to do with PC edition from now on.

By the way I want to include some numbers and listen what do you think about how weird is this situation.

Mortal Kombat X
Total sales as of October 2015 : more than 5 000 000 copies
PC sales as of January 2016 : more than 500 000 copies
Developer : NetherRealm Studios , High Voltage Software
Publisher : Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
PC price on steam : 54, 99 euros

Batman Arkham Knight
Total sales as of October 2015 : more than 5 000 000 copies
PC sales as of August 2015 : about 450 000 copies
Developer : Rocksteady Studios
Publisher : Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
PC price on steam : 39,99 euros

Keep also in mind that batman has 49% of positive reviews while mkx has 57%. We talk about the same publisher company on both cases, so can you give me a good reason why the same company says pull the plug in the first case while in the second delivers new content during the month of January(PC update- January 19th)? In addition in the second case a refund option was given to the buyers, something that must have cost a great deal of money in the company. So if they care just for money, how the same publisher makes 2 different decisions on two cases that are almost identical?

 

[Juxtapose]

Thank you for bringing back the issue of WB responses. If any of you also read some other mails leaked from people who own the game inside WB community's forum, you will see that right now they answer with a generic response and for the people who asked them to forward the mails to the developers the response is the same : "we are really sorry...Kp2 and Xl edition are not currently coming out for pc and we can't give you information about the possibility for a future release..."
So either buying time negotiating with QLOC or other companies who do pc ports, or they have decided to ignore everything that has to do with PC edition from now on.

By the way I want to include some numbers and listen what do you think about how weird is this situation.

Mortal Kombat X
Total sales as of October 2015 : more than 5 000 000 copies
PC sales as of January 2016 : more than 500 000 copies
Developer : NetherRealm Studios , High Voltage Software
Publisher : Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
PC price on steam : 54, 99 euros

Batman Arkham Knight
Total sales as of October 2015 : more than 5 000 000 copies
PC sales as of August 2015 : about 450 000 copies
Developer : Rocksteady Studios
Publisher : Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
PC price on steam : 39,99 euros

Keep also in mind that batman has 49% of positive reviews while mkx has 57%. We talk about the same publisher company on both cases, so can you give me a good reason why the same company says pull the plug in the first case while in the second delivers new content during the month of January(PC update- January 19th)? In addition in the second case a refund option was given to the buyers, something that must have cost a great deal of money in the company. So if they care just for money, how the same publisher makes 2 different decisions on two cases that are almost identical?

One possibility, and I could be wrong, is the upcoming content for Mortal Kombat X was never planned at launch and was commissioned and developed after the fact. For Batman: Arkham Knight, as I understand it, all content is all part of the original release plan and Season Pass.

If so, the scope of the project for Mortal Kombat X changed and expanded, and having sales figures, sales locations, and active community base as a judge, it might have been deemed the PC version's market wasn't strong enough for a return to invest in new content.

 

[chris999]

One possibility, and I could be wrong, is the upcoming content for Mortal Kombat X was never planned at launch and was commissioned and developed after the fact. For Batman: Arkham Knight, as I understand it, all content is all part of the original release plan and Season Pass.

If so, the scope of the project for Mortal Kombat X changed and expanded, and having sales figures, sales locations, and active community base as a judge, it might have been deemed the PC version's market wasn't strong enough for a return to invest in new content.

Yes, that is a good explanation. As we have said in the past a totally unprofessional move, but it could be the case here. Let's see if we are going to have any apology or any other official statement sooner or later.

 

[XxTheGoblinX]

^^we have Street Fighter V to be occupied with while waiting for further announcements from NRS and WB regardling KP2, GGPO and MKXL for the PC.

anybody here who played on the beta? Chun-Li's cr. HP needs some nerfing, lots of players online spam that move. It's a good pressure tool, though!

Just buy it on console or you might risk missing out on dlc again...id learn from this. Just saying

 

[Rizz091]

One possibility, and I could be wrong, is the upcoming content for Mortal Kombat X was never planned at launch and was commissioned and developed after the fact. For Batman: Arkham Knight, as I understand it, all content is all part of the original release plan and Season Pass.

If so, the scope of the project for Mortal Kombat X changed and expanded, and having sales figures, sales locations, and active community base as a judge, it might have been deemed the PC version's market wasn't strong enough for a return to invest in new content.

The problem with that is they've done kombat packs in pretty much this exact fashion for now the third game in a row now. They knew they were gonna do it again. This stuff takes months to develop. Adding new characters is a way bigger job than most people give credit for.

 

[RejectedTuna]

Just buy it on console or you might risk missing out on dlc again...id learn from this. Just saying

Well Capcom fully supported PC SF4 and even worked through the hassle of bringing onto steam. Capcom is also working on the game themselves and not hiring a team of monkeys to make the build (Not a port, a build). Also the game is actually playable, as seen in the betas.

 

[UncleFestor]

One possibility, and I could be wrong, is the upcoming content for Mortal Kombat X was never planned at launch and was commissioned and developed after the fact. For Batman: Arkham Knight, as I understand it, all content is all part of the original release plan and Season Pass.

If so, the scope of the project for Mortal Kombat X changed and expanded, and having sales figures, sales locations, and active community base as a judge, it might have been deemed the PC version's market wasn't strong enough for a return to invest in new content.

Nah. KP2 was planned from the very beginning. They already had planed 8 DLC characters when they initially released the game last year. We've already confirmed that on our end. WB & NRS played it smart. They held off on any mention that KP2 was console exclusive till after christmas holiday's But they announce KP2 3 months prior, through teasing it on twitter (Via potential characters and a new stage). It's a smart move, that drove Hype for the game & upcoming DLC's. Which in turn increased sales across all 3 platforms. They got their money, then made a half-assed announcement by omitting steam logo from 1st Trailer. Which caused speculation, but no certainty either way. Again more hype for the game no matter how u look @ it because it causes discussion amongst the community.