For those who think online sucks....

[I GOT HANDS]

The muscle memory works for me but you are just simply losing frames online. It's just hit and miss, you can pressure, but your not as plus as you think you are. My 40% bnb combos with sub ending with a hkd will always work and there's something to be said for that.

Always works against males anyway

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Always works against males anyway

Lol cryo is actually pretty good with females.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

There are actually a lot here, by comparison of other games and sites. Established pros are a given, but there are a lot of unsung players who play at that level, but haven't been able to break through. Some might not be able to play the S+ meta - so they don't go to tournaments, but they are able to see it. As much as there is complaining that goes on here about the direction this site is going, there are a lot of good posters here. Recognizing who is who here goes a long way.

To me that's the S tier

Their knowledge and opinions might be as sound and as strong as S+

But once you can start to execute something you really start to understand it just a bit better

Being able to apply that knowledge and skill all the way to the top of the ladder is what separates the best from the gods

 

[GAV]

To me that's the S tier

Their knowledge and opinions might be as sound and as strong as S+

But once you can start to execute something you really start to understand it just a bit better

Being able to apply that knowledge and skill all the way to the top of the ladder is what separates the best from the gods

I agree.

The top pros play at the highest level, but who knows what their mind-eyes can see...

 

[Mortal Komhat]

Every other fighting game with online (exception KoFXIII) out there, as far as other games are concerned. You name it, it has better netplay.

My main gripes aren't so much about the netcode tho than at other things involving netplay on MKX.

But that ain't the thread for that.

 

[Spencer]

I was wondering that too why are they giving 10k pot bonuses instead of using that money to fix online.Probably for advertising.

I Been playing COD:Ghost until I can afford to buy BO3 for Zombie mode that I love.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Its funny how i tend to play with 2 bars 99% of the time ( because i live in saudi) and i actually main /play marksman and im used to landing his cancels most of the time aswell

Johnny cages pressure is a lot more intricate than erron blacks. Doing 4 SKRC, 114 SKRC, into whatever is a bitch online and is pretty tough even offline. I always set reptile to ex slide reversal and can get it most of the time, but forget at about it online. You end up losing frames when you don't even realize it.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I was wondering that too why are they giving 10k pot bonuses instead of using that money to fix online.Probably for advertising.

I Been playing COD:Ghost until I can afford to buy BO3 for Zombie mode that I love.

BO3 is feeling pretty good all around its your typical treyarch cod: random spooky lag illuminati, zombies is fun, guns are fun to use, shooting feels good, perks are good, campaign is pointless, full of 8 year olds who have banged your mom, it's achieved maximum aidsyness. It goes full circle of being so retarted that its a blast.

 

[Desperdicio]

Johnny cages pressure is a lot more intricate than erron blacks. Doing 4 SKRC, 114 SKRC, into whatever is a bitch online and is pretty tough even offline. I always set reptile to ex slide reversal and can get it most of the time, but forget at about it online. You end up losing frames when you don't even realize it.

Doubt it. If you want to make perfect run cancels with Marksman (and it's the only way they're really useful, and not just gimmicks), the timing is really strict. It can't get tighter than that with the cancels.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Doubt it. If you want to make perfect run cancels with Marksman (and it's the only way they're really useful, and not just gimmicks), the timing is really strict. It can't get tighter than that with the cancels.

That could be said for any run cancel character. A-List cage is probably the most execution heavy character in the game, but I'm not saying marksman is easy, just easier. The point I was tripping to make is the online frame loss effect run cancel characters as a whole, but apparently that other guy is so godlike that he never loses frames to lag.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

What's the online frame loss? Im yet to believe it isn't just lag throwing out timings

 

[Dankster Morgan]

What's the online frame loss? Im yet to believe it isn't just lag throwing out timings

I'm not super internet savvy, what im trying to explain is a lag spike during a cancel will completely ruin any pressure you had going. Whereas with sub the combos are so easy that lag(unless absolutely abysmal) will be ok. Offline the run cancels can make you're pressure relentless but online you won't be plus when u think you are. Like when I'm normally plus 20 and go for a follow up, because the online delay(which is sometimes almost undetectable) I will be neutral and get armored through.

 

[Spencer]

Sweeeet! Excited

 

[Desperdicio]

That could be said for any run cancel character. A-List cage is probably the most execution heavy character in the game, but I'm not saying marksman is easy, just easier. The point I was tripping to make is the online frame loss effect run cancel characters as a whole, but apparently that other guy is so godlike that he never loses frames to lag.

I know you're just saying he's easier. I'm saying he's not. We're talking about perfect run cancels vs perfect run cancels: what's harder about Johnny's?

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I know you're just saying he's easier. I'm saying he's not. We're talking about perfect run cancels vs perfect run cancels: what's harder about Johnny's?

I find DB motions to be easier for cancels. Some of johnnys cancels are really easy like off of f3 but standing 4 is pretty rediculous. I'll stfu about erron since I don't play him tho.

 

[Undergroundepict]

People make it out to be way worse than it actually is.

It's worse for some people than it is for others. Whatever factors play in to having a garbage vs non-garbage online experience, quality of connection is not one of them. My connection to every game besides MK is godlike, hence the frustration.

Also, and I am not necessarily talking about you specifically, but I wonder how many of those who consider online "acceptable" actually have significant offline experience. Because even the best online experience I have ever had played nothing like my offline games.

 

[GAV]

The crazy thing is that one guy can play lag-free while his opponent's connection may studder and vice-versa.

Online isn't always an even playing field. That's been proven.

 

[Scoot Magee]

The crazy thing is that one guy can play lag-free while his opponent's connection may studder and vice-versa.

Online isn't always an even playing field. That's been proven.

When has it been proven?

 

[Miss Kanzuki]

I don't see this as another "bitching thread", in fact, it goes to show what I have felt for the longest time that this game was made for the offline, tournament, casual/serious player. You truly are missing out if you choose not to be competitive with this game offline. In that sense, NRS has made a game (offline) that doesn't allow for glory to be given to the lobby asshats that just want easy wins. Try that bullshit offline.

 

[roosTakk]

Guess you'll just have to build a bridge and get over it. It's a forum, people make threads to discuss the things people want to discuss.

Fair enough

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

How many hours start to finish?


Really cool write up

Who are the players you think are at the S+ meta who falls into this category? Sonic and DJT have to be there without a unit, I got Burger King up there too


Sub is my go-to character for when I'm on pad, I play on stick but obviously I don't just hang out with it everywhere do when I'm at friends houses or whatever else I play Sub.

And yeah I'm now a Scorp main. Still play Hat Trick he's too damn flashy and I've built a unique playstyle with him, but Hellfire has the tools I want to compete with

only people in the s+ imo are the people who neutral duck grabs for a full combo punish but still tech when they have a decent amount of health like foxy and xarakamaka and whoever else does im trying to implement it aswell as a few other things.

 

[Kotal_Wannabe]

only people in the s+ imo are the people who neutral duck grabs for a full combo punish but still tech when they have a decent amount of health like foxy and xarakamaka and whoever else does im trying to implement it aswell as a few other things.

You're close, but there's alot more to it than that. More than we can understand right now. But we'll get there, it just takes abit longer than those who have crazy fast reflexes and live and breathe MKX.

 

[sars]

I guess online doesn't bother me as much as other people. When I'm not playing mkx it's normally SF4, black ops 3 with my wife, metal gear online 3 with the wife, or fallout 4.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

You're close, but there's alot more to it than that. More than we can understand right now. But we'll get there, it just takes abit longer than those who have crazy fast reflexes and live and breathe MKX.

i feel you bro

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

You're close, but there's alot more to it than that. More than we can understand right now. But we'll get there, it just takes abit longer than those who have crazy fast reflexes and live and breathe MKX.

grabs are unreactable djt is using pokes i believe if theyre reacting to something thats 10 frames there super humans