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Discussion Final MKXL Tier List (post yours!)

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
There have been a lot of tier list threads throughout the games life, but now that the game is pretty well balanced, and Mortal Kombat is gonna be ggs for 95% of everyone when Injustice 2 comes out, Id like to know what EVERYONE thinks about the game's balance one last time.

No particular order in a tier, its alphabetical, so I'm not saying Alien is the best character in his group, or that Triborg is worst in his.

Key:
S: The strongest variations in the game, with powerful strengths, and small weaknesses. Viable as a solo main.

A+: Similar in capabilities to the S variations, but they are more flawed, meaning that they have more exploiatable weaknesses, or less powerful strengths. Theoretically viable as a solo main.

A: Strong characters, but either lack the cheese of high tiers, or aren't as well rounded. May require a second variation to cover weak spots.

A-: These characters are very similar to A and B+, but the variations here are outliers to me and stand apart from A and B+.

B+: Characters with good tools, but they have relevant and easily exploitable weaknesses. These are probably the more "fair" variations on the game. Will require another variation to help.

B: These aren't "bad" characters, but there isn't any merit or reward to choosing a character in here. Variations in this group aren't worth using as a main.

C: Irrelevant variations that put their mains on suicide watch


S: Cassie Cage(Hollywood), Ermac(Mystic), Ermac(Spectral), Jacqui Briggs(Full Auto), Jason Voorhees(Unstoppable), Kitana(Royal Storm), Liu Kang(Dragon's Fire), Mileena(Ethereal), Mileena(Piercing), Quan Chi(Sorcerer), Shinnok(Boneshaper), Shinnok(Imposter), Tremor(Crystalline), Triborg(Sektor), Triborg(Smoke)

A+: Cassie Cage(Brawler), Jason Voorhees(Relentless), Kitana(Assassin), Kenshi(Possessed), Liu Kang(Flame Fist), Mileena(Ravenous), Quan Chi(Summoner), Predator(Hish-Qu-Ten), Raiden(Displacer), Reptile(Deceptive), Reptile(Noxious), Reptile(Nimble), Scorpion(Hellfire), Sonya Blade(Demolition), Sub-Zero(Grandmaster), Takeda(Lasher), Takeda(Shirai Ryu), Tanya(Pyromancer), Tremor(Aftershock)

A: Alien(Acidic), Alien(Konjurer), Bo' Rai Cho(Dragon's Breath), Cassie Cage(Spec Ops), D'Vorah(Swarm Queen), Ermac(Master of Souls), Ferra/Torr(Ruthless), Goro(Dragon Fangs), Goro(Tigrar Fury), Jacqui Briggs(Shotgun) Kano(Cutthroat), Kano(Cybernetic), Kano(Commando), Kitana(Mournful), Kung Jin(Shaolin), Kung Lao(Tempest), Liu Kang(Dualist), Scorpion(Ninjutsu), Shinnok(Necromancer), Sonya Blade(Covert Ops), Sonya Blade(Special Forces), Sub-Zero(Unbreakable), Takeda(Ronin), Tanya(Dragon Naginata)

A-: D'Vorah(Brood Mother), Jason Voorhees(Slasher), Jax(Wrestler), Kung Lao(Buzzsaw), Leatherface(Butcher), Raiden(Thunder God), Tremor(Metallic), Triborg(Cyrax)

B+: Bo' Rai Cho(Bartitsu), D'Vorah(Venomous), Erron Black(Gunslinger), Ferra/Torr(Vicious), Goro(Kuatan Warrior), Jax(Pumped Up) Johnny Cage(A-List), Johnny Cage(Fisticuffs), Kenshi(Balanced), Kotal Kahn(Sun God), Kung Jin(Bojutsu), Leatherface(Killer), Quan Chi(Warlock), Sub-Zero(Cryomancer), Tanya(Kobu Jutsu), Triborg(Cyber Sub-Zero)

B: Alien(Tarkatan), Erron Black(Marksman), Jax(Heavy Weapons), Johnny Cage(Stunt Double), Kenshi(Kenjutsu), Kotal Kahn(War God), Kung Jin(Ancestral), Kung Lao(Hat Trick), Leatherface(Pretty Lady), Predator(Hunter), Predator(Warrior), Raiden(Master of Storms), Scorpion(Inferno)

C: Bo' Rai Cho(Drunken Master), Erron Black(Outlaw), Ferra/Torr(Lackey), Jacqui Briggs(High Tech), Kotal Kahn(Blood God)

Changes:
-Quan Chi(Summoner) moved to A+(down from S)
-Reptile(Deceptive) moved to A+(up from A)
-Reptie(Noxious) moved to A+(up from A)
-Shinnok(Imposter) moved to S(up from A+)
-Tremor(Metallic) moved to A(up from B+)
-Kitana(Mournful) moved to A(up from B+)
-Sonya Blade(Demolition) moved to A+(down from S)
-Sonya Blade(Special Forces) moved to A(down from A+)
-Cassie Cage(Brawler) moved to A+(up from A)
-Cassie Cage(Hollywood) moved to S(up from A+)
-Ermac(Spectral) moved to S(up from A+)
-Takeda(Lasher) moved to A+(down from S)
Cassie Cage(Spec Ops) moved to A(up from B+)
-A- tier added
-Raiden(Thunder God) moved to A-(down from A)
-Tremor(Metallic) moved to A-(down from A)
-D'Vorah(Brood Mother) moved to A-(up from B+)
-Jason Voorhees(Slasher) moved to A-(up from B+)
-Jax(Wrestler) moved to A-(up from B+)
-Kung Lao(Buzzsaw) moved to A-(up from B+)
-Leatherface(Butcher) moved to A-(up from B+)
-Triborg(Cyrax) moved to A-(up from B+)
-Jax(Pumped Up) moved to B+(up from B)
 
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SneakyTortoise

Official Master of Salt
A+: Mileena, Shinnok, Triborg

A: Cassie Cage, Ermac, Jacqui, Jason, Kano, Kenshi, Kitana, Kung Jin, Liu Kang, Predator, Quan Chi, Raiden, Reptile, Scorpion, Sonya, Sub-Zero, Takeda, Tanya, Tremor, Goro

B: Alien, Bo' Rai Cho, D'Vorah, Ferra/Torr, Jax, Johnny Cage, Kung Lao, Leatherface

C: Erron Black, Kotal Kahn

 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
A+: Mileena, Shinnok, Triborg

A: Cassie Cage, Ermac, Jacqui, Jason, Kano, Kenshi, Kitana, Kung Jin, Liu Kang, Predator, Quan Chi, Raiden, Reptile, Scorpion, Sonya, Sub-Zero, Takeda, Tanya, Tremor, Goro

B: Alien, Bo' Rai Cho, D'Vorah, Ferra/Torr, Jax, Johnny Cage, Kung Lao, Leatherface

C: Erron Black, Kotal Kahn

That ones legit for a non variation list.
 

UGL Preon

The Casual God
Legend: (Lower than Op), Higher Than Op, if Italics "My Opinion is different but could argue either way myself"

S: Ermac(Mystic), Jason Voorhees(Unstoppable), Kitana(Royal Storm), Liu Kang(Dragon's Fire), Mileena(Ethereal), Mileena(Piercing), Shinnok(Boneshaper), Shinnok(Imposter), Sonya Blade(Demolition), Takeda(Lasher), Triborg(Sektor), Triborg(Smoke)

A+: Cassie Cage(Hollywood), Ermac(Spectral), Jacqui Briggs(Full Auto), Jason Voorhees(Relentless), Kenshi(Possessed), Liu Kang(Flame Fist), Mileena(Ravenous), Predator(Hish-Qu-Ten), Quan Chi(Sorcerer), Quan Chi(Summoner), Raiden(Displacer), Reptile(Nimble), Scorpion(Hellfire), Sonya Blade(Special Forces), Sub-Zero(Grandmaster), Takeda(Shirai Ryu), Tanya(Pyromancer), Tanya(Dragon Naginata), Tremor(Aftershock), Tremor(Crystalline), Triborg(Cyrax),

A: Alien(Acidic), Alien(Konjurer), Bo' Rai Cho(Dragon's Breath), Cassie Cage(Brawler), D'Vorah(Swarm Queen), Ermac(Master of Souls), Ferra/Torr(Ruthless), Goro(Dragon Fangs), Goro(Tigrar Fury), Jacqui Briggs(Shotgun) Kano(Cutthroat), Kano(Cybernetic), Kitana(Assassin), Kung Jin(Shaolin), Kung Lao(Tempest), Liu Kang(Dualist), Predator(Hunter), Raiden(Thunder God), Reptile(Noxious), Reptile(Deceptive), Scorpion(Ninjutsu), Shinnok(Necromancer), Sonya Blade(Covert Ops), Sub-Zero(Unbreakable), Takeda(Ronin)

B+: Bo' Rai Cho(Bartitsu), Cassie Cage(Spec Ops), D'Vorah(Venomous), D'Vorah(Brood Mother), Erron Black(Gunslinger), Ferra/Torr(Vicious), Goro(Kuatan Warrior), Jason Voorhees(Slasher), Jax(Wrestler), Johnny Cage(A-List), Kano(Commando), Kenshi(Balanced), Kitana(Mournful), Kotal Kahn(Sun God), Kung Jin(Bojutsu), Kung Lao(Buzzsaw), Leatherface(Killer), Leatherface(Butcher), Quan Chi(Warlock), Sub-Zero(Cryomancer), Tanya(Kobu Jutsu), Tremor(Metallic), Triborg(Cyber Sub-Zero)

B: Alien(Tarkatan), Erron Black(Marksman), Jax(Heavy Weapons), Jax(Pumped Up), Johnny Cage(Fisticuffs), Johnny Cage(Stunt Double), Kenshi(Kenjutsu), Kotal Kahn(War God), Kung Jin(Ancestral), Kung Lao(Hat Trick), Predator(Warrior), Raiden(Master of Storms), Scorpion(Inferno)

C: Bo' Rai Cho(Drunken Master), Erron Black(Outlaw), Ferra/Torr(Lackey), Leatherface(Pretty Lady), Jacqui Briggs(High Tech), Kotal Kahn(Blood God)
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Firstly, thank you for doing a variation tier list like what should've been done from the start. Makes no sense to list characters when each variation could be miles apart in tier lol.

Secondly, outside of:
Spectral and Hollywood being in A+ rather than S
Special Forces being in A+ instead of A
Acidic, Dragon Breath, Brawler, Swarm Queen, Shotgun, Cutthroat being in A instead of A+
Necromancer, Tigrar Fury, Dualist being in A instead of B
Brood Mother, Gunslinger, Balanced, Mournful, Bojutsu, Buzz Saw, Cryomancer being in B+ instead of A
Heavy Weapons, Master of Storms and Warrior being in B instead of B+ (mayyyyyybe A)
Kenjutsu being in B instead of C
Ancestral being in B instead of A

I'm down with pretty much all the rest :p
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Thanks for the responses guys. Just to explain something, I'm treating every variation as their own character, so everyone's matchups by themselves. So that's why I don't have Imposter in S, if he's fighting a character where he steals a shit ass move he can't do anything about it.
 

Marinjuana

Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes
I'd put Drunken Master and Metallic at least one tier higher then they currently are. Metallic is underrated and people downplay DM because of the drinking mechanic.
 

Kooron Nation

More Ass and Tits for MK11
Ravenous is better than Piercing man.
Also Spectral is on the same, if not better level than Mystic.
I think Hunter, Lasher, and Brood Mother are slept on too and could possibly go one tier higher.

Also I've always wondered; Who is the worst character (all variations included) in this game?
And is there such thing as a 10-0 match up across any variations?
 
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Eddy Wang

Skarlet scientist
Drunken Master is easily one of the worst variations of this game, and its not because he lacks mids, its pure and simply his drinking mechanic is just bad that puts what this variation should have been to rest, pure disappointment.
 

legion666

Champion
Key:
S: The strongest variations in the game, with powerful strengths, and small weaknesses. Viable as a solo main.

A+: Similar in capabilities to the S variations, but they are more flawed, meaning that they have more exploiatable weaknesses, or less powerful strengths. Theoretically viable as a solo main.
By your own definition neither Sorcerer nor Summoner belong in S tier, they have the same weakness and it is rather exploitable - lack of a wake up attack.
 

masherofbuttons

I'll mash out of +30 I know no fear
Hig
Ravenous is better than Piercing man.
Also Spectral is on the same, if not better level than Mystic.
I think Hunter, Lasher, and Brood Mother are slept on too and could possibly go one tier higher.

Also I've always wondered; Who is the worst character (all variations included) in this game?
And is there such thing as a 10-0 match up across any variations?
high tech vs. Master of storms is pretty damn close. It's zod vs lex levels of bad
 

kabelfritz

Master
whenever someone comes up with his own tier list i wonder how he has major-winner-level knowledge of every single variation in the game.

there is only one reasonable way to make a valid tier list and that is a community effort. the best players and/or scientists of their characters discuss the matchup numbers and the tierlist is based on those numbers solely.
 

kabelfritz

Master
Ravenous is better than Piercing man.
Also Spectral is on the same, if not better level than Mystic.
I think Hunter, Lasher, and Brood Mother are slept on too and could possibly go one tier higher.

Also I've always wondered; Who is the worst character (all variations included) in this game?
And is there such thing as a 10-0 match up across any variations?
vanilla raiden vs quan was probably 10-0. it means broken and unwinnable.