Strategy - Master of Souls Ermacs F4 Extra Scaling? Bonus My MoS Vortex.

[MK_Chameleon]

So I have noticed that F4 scales more than neutral 4, I have known about this for quite some time and my best guess is that ground bounce moves scale slightly more. So I'm just wondering if anyone else noticed this or why it scales slightly more.

They are both 7% damage 1 hit moves so I tested it out today to see the difference it is very minor but in this video you'll see that the soul ball does 6.17% after a neutral 4 but 5.85 after a F4

Here's a longer version of the scaling

This is my current Ideal starter combo for my MoS vortex with two optional follow ups that are same damage.

 

[PaletteSwap]

I'm at work so I was only able to watch the 3rd video but it was awesome.

Unrelated to this, I remember you making a thread complaining about how unsafe and unviable Ermac is. Have you been having any success with him lately or do you still feel the same?

 

[BoromiRofGeo]

i like ur vortex, its nasty

 

[MK_Chameleon]

i like ur vortex, its nasty

Thank you the starter is not the easiest but it is the most flashy in my opinion.

 

[MK_Chameleon]

I'm at work so I was only able to watch the 3rd video but it was awesome.

Unrelated to this, I remember you making a thread complaining about how unsafe and unviable Ermac is. Have you been having any success with him lately or do you still feel the same?

I have always done well with Ermac but that's just because I'm still not getting punished by my unsafe strings. I still stand by what I said I think he is too unsafe.

 

[VenomX-90]

Yeah im gonna practice this combo, if you dont mind. good shit.

 

[PaletteSwap]

I have always done well with Ermac but that's just because I'm still not getting punished by my unsafe strings. I still stand by what I said I think he is too unsafe.

Still feel like there are obvious MU's in Ermac's favor. I think Ermac deals with Grandmaster Sub Zero better than quite a few characters.

 

[Invincible Salads]

ermac has a vortex too? its like, half the cast has em or something!

 

[Afumba]

Yeah this is a known thing. S4 can make the same combo do 1% more damage than f4 - it doesnt always tip that extra % though.
Same as you i assumed it is cause of the bounce. (adding njp sometimes also didnt add damage; assumed the worse scaling comes from bounce here too)

Nice Vortex btw. Although you could remove the "b12, jik-teleport" part with "f3-teleport" for the same damage. I find it a bit easier.
Or add a b12 before the f4 for 37%. Execution is tight with the b12 though. Here the full combo.

jip, f21d2, f3xxteleport, b12, f4 SoulBall, jip b12 (37%)

 

[MK_Chameleon]

Nice Vortex btw. Although you could remove the "b12, jik-teleport" part with "f3-teleport" for the same damage. I find it a bit easier.
Or add a b12 before the f4 for 37%. Execution is tight with the b12 though. Here the full combo.

jip, f21d2, f3xxteleport, b12, f4 SoulBall, jip b12 (37%)

Yeah I just started using f3-teleport instead of b12 j3-teleport it's so much easier. Less stylish though but practicality over flashiness.

 

[zaf]

Yea I also started to use F3 in place of JK teleport. the damage is literally the same
@MK_Chameleon It is definitely a lot less flashy but more consistent.
Ive also noticed that S4 scales better then F4. I try to keep F4 out of combos unless it is the starter because of the scaling