Breakthrough - Kung Lao [EO Beta Closed] Kung Lao Beta Changes Discussion

[DrManhattan]

Judgement fist is like 15 frames faster lol

 

[DarksydeDash]

Honestly these changes are not too bad. Except that damage scaling because that 2 frame link is not easy. Any Hat Trick buffs?

 

[IrishMantis]

and lol at ex spin that sucks you on block... hope you scrubs are now happy, maybe you'll learn to punish a -28 one day

Overall hes not too bad, i was expecting them to kill him somehow

his playstyle will still be identical just slightly not as full proof and slightly less reward (44 Scalling is going to hurt the other variations)

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Overall hes not too bad, i was expecting them to kill him somehow

his playstyle will still be identical just slightly not as full proof and slightly less reward (44 Scalling is going to hurt the other variations)

actually, as i said, +7 ex hat just completely removes the mindgame you had with d4, so yeah, it changes cause your plus frames now guarantee you nothing.

 

[IrishMantis]

actually, as i said, +7 ex hat just completely removes the mindgame you had with d4, so yeah, it changes cause your plus frames now guarantee you nothing.

Yeah i suppose i wonder why as it wasnt really an issue

but i doubt its going to knock Tempest shit tier.
Ex Spin is a redundant nerf as it was punishable in anyway so that should not be considered a nerf at high level

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Yeah i suppose i wonder why as it wasnt really an issue

but i doubt its going to knock Tempest shit tier.
Ex Spin is a redundant nerf as it was punishable in anyway so that should not be considered a nerf at high level

ex spin nerf is redundant yeah, i dont mind it, i just lol at it.

ex hat at -7 however hurts his rushdown significantly... with orb hat at +12 you had a guaranteed d4 wich added the mindgame for the opponent "armour or not armour?", so you had different options to work with based on the read you made after ex hat... now that you can no longer jail a d4, you'll have to ex hat bait armor or commit to pressure and get armored. With the fuckton of safe armours in this game, i just dont think it's a good idea.

anything on his normals btw? same speed? block / hit adv?

 

[IrishMantis]

ex spin nerf is redundant yeah, i dont mind it, i just lol at it.

ex hat at -7 however hurts his rushdown significantly... with orb hat at +12 you had a guaranteed d4 wich added the mindgame for the opponent "armour or not armour?", so you had different options to work with based on the read you made after ex hat... now that you can no longer jail a d4, you'll have to ex hat bait armor or commit to pressure and get armored. With the fuckton of safe armours in this game, i just dont think it's a good idea.

anything on his normals btw? same speed? block / hit adv?

D4 is -6 but we all seen that coming

from the little i played J2 feels the same but im no pro

 

[WiseM0nkey]

D4 is -6 but we all seen that coming

from the little i played J2 feels the same but im no pro

-5 would be better

 

[just_2swift]

That dmg nerf though.... hope it's not permanent

 

[IrishMantis]

-5 would be better

nah you are now in the Johnny -6 club too, its nice and warm down here

plus no character can full combo punish it

-6 is the new -5

 

[WiseM0nkey]

nah you are now in the Johnny -6 club too, its nice and warm down here

plus no character can full combo punish it

-6 is the new -5

nerfed flip kick? anything on d1? s1? f2?

my d4 doesnt low profile mids doe

 

[IrishMantis]

nerfed flip kick? anything on d1? s1? f2?

Yep flip kick is now -7

Reptile may still able to slide if it stays the same but you lose 6% lol

i have no idea im off it now
but everything still looked the same, somebody said one of his strings is faster in the other thared, but i dont kow true or which string

 

[MILE_HIGH_CLUB]

Lol get off tempest guys in break down the character!!! plz Where are the hat tricks

 

[IrishMantis]

Lol get off tempest guys in break down the character!!! plz Where are the hat tricks

From the little i checked everything looked the same (im not familiar with his frame data) but definitely no armour

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Yep flip kick is now -7

Reptile may still able to slide if it stays the same but you lose 6% lol

i have no idea im off it now
but everything still looked the same, somebody said one of his strings is faster in the other thared, but i dont kow true or which string

wich thread?

 

[Shirai Ryu Dog]

Nerf more lmao

 

[IrishMantis]

wich thread?

One of the Beta threads i think, i forget

Looks like you Lao players are gonna need to get that 1 frame link now for the dmg and stop being scrubs with your easy 2 frame link

 

[WiseM0nkey]

44 link is now 1 frame? @IrishMantis

 

[IrishMantis]

44 link is now 1 frame? @IrishMantis

lol no i was joking

about bout b3 instead, but you probably will still get more dmg of 44 for a bar

 

[WiseM0nkey]

lol no i was joking

about bout b3 instead, but you probably will still get more dmg of 44 for a bar

still 32/33% meterless is good

 

[just_2swift]

How much is ex spin 4 hat spin 4 spin jk-dk 21?

 

[MadPropz101]

Ji2 is still ridiculous idk what yall talking about

 

[DET_BLAKEANATOR]

Are they just gonna keep nerfing him until he sucks? The damage scaling was so dumb now he hits 33% for a 2 frame link.....plz -_- and +7 on ex hat orbit ruined any mind game he had with his down 4. Sounded like he was overly nerfed.

 

[zoofs]

Judgement fist is like 15 frames faster lol

wtf is judgement fist?

 

[Eddy Wang]

IIRC His D4 is -6 now was -3

it was -9

From what i'm reading, Hat Spin has damage protection now, so it doesn't affect the other variation's damage, i suppose.