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Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
We don't actually have one of these yet for some reason. At the moment, things don't look too great, but I could see a lot changing with a better variation and some small frame buffs.

This is just the beginning. She's down, but not out.

Has anyone found a good use for 212222? It feels kinda useless as is beyond a basic stagger, but 21 is also negative on hit.

I haven't had time to test it out, but can we combo off a raw d2 with a strep bug out, amplified or otherwise? I enjoy setups that involve doing something unsafe then punishing people for trying to punish.
 
JBeezYBabY

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Its a LOT to do with her change in frame stuff. She can barely even combo off a jump in now, and from what videos I've seen, shes much slower which kills her combo potential.

Hearing HoneyBee saying the pros dropped her and even himself said he will look for other characters is pretty bad. NRS fucked her up before she can even start. :(
 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
Yeah, I know. I was a die hard Venomous main for Mk X, and I just can't stick with this version of her. Can't stagger, punish, or even stop people from mashing out of d1 on hit with anything bit d1 or sweep. Her setups are still good, but her basic functionality is awful. Wondering how many of these nerfs will be undone eventually, tbh.
 
Apex Kano

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
I haven't played with MK11 Devorah yet, but it's sad news HobeyBee not playing his main on his streams. I would say find some way to make her work, if possible but if not hopefully they will fix her frames.
 
Raider

Raider

Warrior
There must be a reason why NRS (or someone at NRS) decided to kill D'Vorah like this before she even started. There is no way she can stay like this. We need an explanation.

Everyone was so hyped about her when they finally showed her and now even her biggest fans are dropping her.
 
7horx

7horx

Noob
Second Saint said:
We don't actually have one of these yet for some reason. At the moment, things don't look too great, but I could see a lot changing with a better variation and some small frame buffs.

This is just the beginning. She's down, but not out.

Has anyone found a good use for 212222? It feels kinda useless as is beyond a basic stagger, but 21 is also negative on hit.

I haven't had time to test it out, but can we combo off a raw d2 with a strep bug out, amplified or otherwise? I enjoy setups that involve doing something unsafe then punishing people for trying to punish.
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The only useful thing I've found for 21222 is that she can place her Strepsiptera trap after knocking down your opponent with the string. It gives her some space to avoid wakeups and pokes.
 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
7horx said:
The only useful thing I've found for 21222 is that she can place her Strepsiptera trap after knocking down your opponent with the string. It gives her some space to avoid wakeups and pokes.
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That's nice. Is that as a combo ender or raw?

Also, I did a little labbing while I was at my local, which sadly was using the the pre hotfix patch, and labbed a strepsitera d2 setup. Worked almost perfectly, except if they press buttons after blocking the d2, it doesn't start a combo :(

Might be able to get a raw puddle going off amp strepsitera.

Take that with a grain of salt since it was the wrong patch, though.
 
7horx

7horx

Noob
Second Saint said:
That's nice. Is that as a combo ender or raw?

Also, I did a little labbing while I was at my local, which sadly was using the the pre hotfix patch, and labbed a strepsitera d2 setup. Worked almost perfectly, except if they press buttons after blocking the d2, it doesn't start a combo :(

Might be able to get a raw puddle going off amp strepsitera.

Take that with a grain of salt since it was the wrong patch, though.
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Unfortunately raw. Another thing is the string has no gaps for flawless block etc but I can be wrong.
 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
I've taken to enforcing my d1 plus frames with raw db4. If they actually block, I've got a mind game on whether or not I'll spend a bar to keep me safe.

It feels fucking disgusting having to do this when I play against Kabal with his ridiculous mids into meterless combo launches.

I just keep coming back to a resounding...why?!?
 
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nightcrawlers

Noob
Not to be over dramatic and tacky.. I love D’vorah. I player her, Shao Kahn. Erron mostly (and mess around with other) - I’m still very much a scrub. But, D’vorah feels unplayable me. Many of her specials serve no real purpose, her strings are gimmicky and if they know there just isn’t much she can do.

Feels to me they went way too far.
 
Rey

Rey

Reycier
That's true.
I also think so.
her frames are soooo bad.
So slow on start up, too much recovery and not good on block.
Just one mid with 20 start up...
This will get fixed for sure!
 
Phr4nk

Phr4nk

2021 Ash Main
I'm actually trying really hard not to love this character, but I just keep coming back. I'm trying to work my way through the cast looking for a main, and I keep finding myself in the lab with D'vorah. Her moves are slow but her setups are interesting, and her abilities seem to add a lot to her gameplay.
 
UghGetOuttaHere

UghGetOuttaHere

Number Cruncher. Jack of All Trades.
Phr4nk said:
I'm actually trying really hard not to love this character, but I just keep coming back. I'm trying to work my way through the cast looking for a main, and I keep finding myself in the lab with D'vorah. Her moves are slow but her setups are interesting, and her abilities seem to add a lot to her gameplay.
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Yeah her normals arent that special except her jumping 1, but a forward dash into f2, 2 covers alot of range. Db4 is much better this time around.
Her df2 krushing blow is the most fun though because of the combo and set up potential.
I feel like pooping bug is vital to her gameplay for the pressure it provides. Once it goes off in the corner they are stuck there for like 3 seconds and Dvorah gets to do whatever (but dont grab until the end)
 
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FeverAyeAye

Noob
Watched about 30 minutes of Waz playing her and he went for poop bug ender in most combos, and often amplified poop bug which is a lot of time that your opponent can't do anything but eat a mix-up. It's a shame they slowed down her f+4 overhead, though.
 
UghGetOuttaHere

UghGetOuttaHere

Number Cruncher. Jack of All Trades.
Its disappointing to me that the Dvorah threads/forums are so dead.
In other news... Ive been trying to use the ability where she comes back to life as a bug but it triggers at like 10% health. if i died to a throw, fatal blow, krushing blow, or some kind of character specific moves = no bug... waste of two slots :(.
 
UghGetOuttaHere

UghGetOuttaHere

Number Cruncher. Jack of All Trades.
I think shes a little under estimated. A small buff would be nice but once she gets going it can already be hard to stop her.
But first things first we need people to start talking about her. If you guys wanna fight my dvorah im on xbox.
 
Rey

Rey

Reycier
The Forums of her are dead because she isn't viable on high lvl.
she loss every counter poke game cause her fastest mid except d1 is 17frames...
until this isn't fix, she doesn't exist.
so sad...
 
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nightcrawlers

Noob
Nike said:
I think shes a little under estimated. A small buff would be nice but once she gets going it can already be hard to stop her.
But first things first we need people to start talking about her. If you guys wanna fight my dvorah im on xbox.
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IDK, I think you might have tunnel vision and might not realize how far behind she is. Even at my scrub level she seems significantly worse then the rest of the cast.
 
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