Zoidberg747
My blades will find your heart
That is something that just happens, no CW player in their right minds will actually rely on that combo.
That is something that just happens, no CW player in their right minds will actually rely on that combo.
They still have to know which way to input it.
Yes
The 2nd hit whiffs
You didn't understand what I was getting at and you wrongly assume me to be an ignoramus. My previous post is misleading and doesn't exactly express what I was trying to say. This here is crossup tech. The idea being that wake up attack and block controls are reversed (or not in a double cross up). If you always follow up on the crossup with the low starter people just duck and all this tech is useless. My conclusion based on probability distribution is that the F1,1,2 string is preferable in 2/3 of the chances you get.
I didn't assume anything about you. I read your post and responded accordingly. If your post is misleading, which it was, it sounds like I read it correctly and got misled. However, this last post of yours is equally misleading.
Come on Ninj, this is not so complicated. If you get crossed up you need to block in the opposite direction than you initially assumed. This is what I mean by writing "forward block". If you get double crossed up you block the same way you initially assumed before the crossups happened. Is that so hard to understand? As I said already you assume again that I am so fucking stupid that I believe something can be blocked by walking forward. Stop doing that. Think before you answer.
That's simply wrong. Since it is a cross up or double cross up the option about blocking high is split up into "blocking high right" and "blocking high left", same with wakeup and backdash. This entire thread is about this. And that's why the math is not about a 50/50 but about a ((50/50)(50/50)). There are 7 choices the defender has to pick from in a time frame of less than 1 second. And my point is that the "duck" option is prevalent in such a scenario.
Why? Everything in this forum, EVERYTHING is theory with the exception of match-videos and even discussing them often ends in a theoretic discussions. The only buttons I press here are on my keyboard and the only reads I do here are the postings.
The setup ends in a 50/50. The setup itself is built to confuse the opponents inputs. This confusion doesn't change the fact that they have to guess whether it's a low or a high hit, and it doesn't incapacitate the opponent from being able to make an attempt at making the right read, it simply makes it more difficult. But again, in the end, the opponent has to make a read as to block high or low. The mechanical movements involved in doing so don't change - it's either high, or it's low. The confusion factor is another point entirely - the psychology behind what direction someone may generally want to press, etc is a supremely complex subject to debate and given that I don't have a degree in this background I'm not willing or able to debate it. We'd also have to discuss typical training of tournament-level, top-placing players and their general mentality in these situations to be able to talk accurately about that psychology and how effective this setup truly is.
Just so you know I completely get what you are saying and I agree.
This is, just as simply, why you're incorrect. Zoidberg747 you should hear this too:
But if they just block low they dont have to block the crossup, they can block either side. With the overhead they have to guess. Unless I am mistaken that they can block both sides by holding down, in which case you ould be right.
