Match-Up Discussion - Cassie Cage Cassie Cage Community MU Chart/discussion

[GAV]

From My Experience

Possessed Kenshi 5-5


Buzzsaw Lao 5-5
Tempest Lao 5-5(Maybe 6-4 In Her Favor)


War God Kotal 6-4
Sun God Kotal 6-4


Grandmaster Sub Zero 4-6 (Possible 5-5 Because Of IAG, But If Cornered By Him Then Ggs)

Tarkatan Alien 6-4
Acidic Alien 5-5 (Could Be 6-4 Because She Can Punish EVERYTHING He Does Even Exo Spray Which is -8. But The Acid In The Nuetral Can't Be Ignored)
Konjurer Alien 6-4

Master Of Storms Raiden 6-4

Boneshaper Shinnok 5-5 (Possible That It's Worse For Her, But I Haven't Played Boneshaper That Gave Huge Issues)

Impostor Shinnok- 0-10 Fuck This Character


Ninjutsu 5-5(Might Be A Little Better For Her)

 

[shura30]

Boneshaper Shinnok 5-5 (Possible That It's Worse For Her, But I Haven't Played Boneshaper That Gave Huge Issues)

I believe this can be kept at 5-5 for hollywood..slightly worse for brawler but I don't know if I have the will to pick that variation against that kind of zoning/neutral even tho he's not supposed to leave the ground anymore once put down

recently there's a bunch of new boneshapers eu side so I might comeback later with more info
but for now hollywood has to be on point with iags barrage and b1 to catch shinnok's attempt to get back into a comfy hellspark range
also he still gets launched by exbf4 on both projectiles

slight walk back then 242 should kill any attack after MB HS (first and second ofc)
reversal flip kills the shoulderxxMB (even though it's possible to 242 for a full punish and carry but risk/reward sucks because timing)

 

[Scott The Scot]

Anybody got any thoughts on the Brawler vs Commando MU?

I think Kano in general is sort of annoying for Cassie. Knives are good for keeping her in check meaning she can't just walk about and abuse her walkspeed and B1 range to bully him to the corner.

 

[GLoRToR]

Anybody got any thoughts on the Brawler vs Commando MU?

I think Kano in general is sort of annoying for Cassie. Knives are good for keeping her in check meaning she can't just walk about and abuse her walkspeed and B1 range to bully him to the corner.

6-4 hollywood, if you can iags consistently it might be a 5-5

 

[RevetLeafing]

How do you guys feel on Cassie vs Tanya? (all variations)

 

[Scott The Scot]

6-4 hollywood, if you can iags consistently it might be a 5-5

Brawler, mate

 

[CompleteMadness]

How do you guys feel on Cassie vs Tanya? (all variations)

Speaking on hollywood only I'd say.
Hollywood vs Dragon Nati would be 6-4
Hollywood vs KobuJutsu 6-4
Hollywood vs Pyromancer 5-5

 

[RevetLeafing]

Speaking on hollywood only I'd say.
Hollywood vs Dragon Nati would be 6-4
Hollywood vs KobuJutsu 6-4
Hollywood vs Pyromancer 5-5

Interesting.. okay

 

[CompleteMadness]

Interesting.. okay

Brawler might even be a 6-4 against Dragon and kobu as well. Both very air oriented play styles, brawler can grab tanya out of the air at anytime 1 bar for a 35%+ combo. From my experiences with a very good Tanya friend of mine brawler makes Kobu and Dragon play the ground game, where Cassie's neutral shines. She can punish on reaction everytime you teleport close or go into air for high damage.

 

[GLoRToR]

Brawler, mate

drunk up I'm shut

 

[RevetLeafing]

Brawler might even be a 6-4 against Dragon and kobu as well. Both very air oriented play styles, brawler can grab tanya out of the air at anytime 1 bar for a 35%+ combo. From my experiences with a very good Tanya friend of mine brawler makes Kobu and Dragon play the ground game, where Cassie's neutral shines. She can punish on reaction everytime you teleport close or go into air for high damage.

Who is the Tanya, I shall add him

 

[CompleteMadness]

Who is the Tanya, I shall add him

U know him EdenianWarrior! I play Tanya as well though been usuing tanya long time all variations.

 

[RevetLeafing]

U know him EdenianWarrior! I play Tanya as well though been usuing tanya long time all variations.

Omg lmao, okay thanks

 

[Scott The Scot]

Interesting.. okay

I'm interested to know what you think of the MU against any Cassie variation for Tanya, since you're a well known Tanya player who plays with top level players quite frequently.

 

[RevetLeafing]

I'm interested to know what you think of the MU against any Cassie variation for Tanya, since you're a well known Tanya player who plays with top level players quite frequently.

Pyromancer: 6 Hollywood 4
Pyromancer: 7 Brawler 3
Pyromancer: 6 Spec Ops 4

Kobu Jutsu: 5 Hollywood 5
Kobu Jutsu: 5 Brawler 5
Kobu Jutsu: 6 Spec Ops 4

Dragon Naginata: 6 Hollywood 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Brawler 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Spec Ops 4

 

[Scott The Scot]

Pyromancer: 6 Hollywood 4
Pyromancer: 7 Brawler 3
Pyromancer: 6 Spec Ops 4

Kobu Jutsu: 5 Hollywood 5
Kobu Jutsu: 5 Brawler 5
Kobu Jutsu: 6 Spec Ops 4

Dragon Naginata: 6 Hollywood 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Brawler 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Spec Ops 4

Interesting numbers, cheers! Can I ask what your reasoning for the Brawler vs Pyro MU is? And was it any different prepatch?

 

[x TeeJay o]

Pyromancer: 6 Hollywood 4
Pyromancer: 7 Brawler 3
Pyromancer: 6 Spec Ops 4

Kobu Jutsu: 5 Hollywood 5
Kobu Jutsu: 5 Brawler 5
Kobu Jutsu: 6 Spec Ops 4

Dragon Naginata: 6 Hollywood 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Brawler 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Spec Ops 4

Hollywood Losing 6-4 To Nag? I Cant See It.I Can Maybe See Pyro But I'd Lean Towards 5-5 Cause Of IAG . I'm Open To Discussing This Though

 

[CompleteMadness]

Pyromancer: 6 Hollywood 4
Pyromancer: 7 Brawler 3
Pyromancer: 6 Spec Ops 4

Kobu Jutsu: 5 Hollywood 5
Kobu Jutsu: 5 Brawler 5
Kobu Jutsu: 6 Spec Ops 4

Dragon Naginata: 6 Hollywood 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Brawler 4
Dragon Naginata : 6 Spec Ops 4

Definitely don't agree with hollywood or brawler losing 6-4 to Nagi . Also think hollywood beats KobuJutso 6-4 don't think that's a 5-5

 

[B. Shazzy]

ftr i would straight bodybag espio's goro any day of the week with spec ops

 

[shura30]

@Compbros

never bothered with specops since at least mkxl patch
do you still think, even with the recent changes, that variation is the best option against boneshaper?

 

[Parasurama]

Goro has always done great versus Cassie, but her changes over time alongside Goro's have made it notably worse. Compbros touched on a lot of points so I don't wanna reiterate everything, but Cassie's weak wake up game is huge, she is one of if not the easiest characters to oki for Goro. She's almost as vulnerable as Quan except Quan can keep people out, Spec ops isn't for any notable length of time and fireballs are so much better now with way quicker recovery and start up. I don't at all believe it's anywhere near 8-2 though as her footsies are still good and she can still low profile under some mids with her pokes, but she definitely is in for a harder time versus Goro. There's just not really a comfortable range for her to reliably play at as she loses at range, gets handled well on oki and up close, but she definitely can make some things happen with her set ups if she catches Goro without meter, I'd label it 6-4 MAYBE at worst 7-3, but it's probably not that lopsided.

How does Goro bully Cassie on knock down? Especially Hollywood. with her invincible nut punch.... or are you only talking about spec ops? if so, why is her up kick so bad? and brawler got the ex tackle and command grab...
I could understand that since she wants to be upclose, his plus strings could make it difficult, but I do not think she is like Quan Chi ?

 

[Compbros]

How does Goro bully Cassie on knock down? Especially Hollywood. with her invincible nut punch.... or are you only talking about spec ops? if so, why is her up kick so bad? and brawler got the ex tackle and command grab...
I could understand that since she wants to be upclose, his plus strings could make it difficult, but I do not think she is like Quan Chi ?

The armor for upkick is wonky and it is one of the most punishable armor moves in the game.

@Compbros

never bothered with specops since at least mkxl patch
do you still think, even with the recent changes, that variation is the best option against boneshaper?

No clue, haven't played against the new bone shaper.

 

[JerzeyReign]

Just picked up Brawler Cassie and I need some serious help if she only has two losing MUs.

Regardless, how do you guys deal with zoners with Brawler? About to lurk around this forum for clues.

 

[Wigy]

Just picked up Brawler Cassie and I need some serious help if she only has two losing MUs.

Regardless, how do you guys deal with zoners with Brawler? About to lurk around this forum for clues.

Jk ex grab is your friend

 

[Scott The Scot]

Just picked up Brawler Cassie and I need some serious help if she only has two losing MUs.

Regardless, how do you guys deal with zoners with Brawler? About to lurk around this forum for clues.

Walk and block. Also what Wigy said. You only need to get into B1 range then it's easy lol.

Also no, if you read the OP you'll see that everything is 5-5 by default and we're changing it as we go along. So just because it says 5-5, doesn't mean it is 5-5; it's a placeholder.