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BREAKING: Erron Black (and others) supposedly Leaked on Reddit

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Really curious to see how Erron Black will play if he'll be more zoney this time around since there's no run element.
 
It means more than your reading comprehension apparently.

The person I quoted states the good guys never lose and the bad guys never win because if they won the good guys would die.

But they did win before and the good guys died so his point was invalid. It’s not about if them dying meant they’d stay dead or not, it’s the fact that being a hero in MK does not excuse you from getting annihilated. In fact in 9 good lost all the way up until the very last second when the Elder Gods(who aren’t even “good” and are instead neutral) stepped in and took care of Shao.

They may not be entirely dead but they aren’t even good guys anymore.
I was just joking about how death in MK doesn't mean a whole lot lol.
 
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RoninLoganX

The Masterless Sword
I don't mind Johnny being a bit of comic relief, I do mind duplicate behavior and family drama :-p

So I don't mind Johnny, I do mind Cassie. BUT if she gets green lantern powers, I may start to like her though.
Alright. I can understand where you're coming from. I personally love Cassie and Johnny, and don't mind them being similar. And, I guess I'm more used to the drama because I grew up reading comic books, which are essentially soap operas in tights.
I will say I hope they expand upon Sonya's character though. Always liked the character, but i wasn't too keen on the direction they took her in in MKX.
 

DDustiNN

MK11 Pocket Guide: Koming Soon to the App Store
does nobody see that in the close up Kotal picture he doesn't have classic Liu's long hair?


has also everyone forgotten about the steamdb leak that had most of the roster, and also confirmed Jade and voila, she got revealed a few days later?
Kotal is 100% in. The stance and the model supposedly being based off Liu are likely to be this following scenario:
In MK9 and MKX, NRS developed a generic male and female npc, typically called NPC_BASEMALE and female. MKVSDCU also had one called char_basemale_medium.
MK9 still has this character inside the files and is fully playable btw.
Now, going off how NPC_BASEMALE was used, he was used to test fatalities (check fatalities behind the scenes footage for mk9) and as a base for either a male or female (in the case of basefemale) character.
Considering how early this build is in terms of designs (notice Sub, Jade and Kabal are by default unmasked, or the difference in poses for Baraka and Geras' slot render) it's very likely the build is pre MK Day reveal, possibly even dating back from 2018. It's extremely likely they made a basemale for MK11 and then potentially modified the mesh for it as a base (like the name suggests lol) for Classic Liu and Kotal. Considering how Sonya's face has changed as well as how the default designs have changed since this early build, it isn't 100% impossible that Kotal will get a model change to look less like the basemale model that both Classic Liu and Kotal were based off.

Finally, as for the stance being the same, in MK9, Rederma aka proto skarlet had Jade's stance in combat from her 360 files that were accidentally left on the disc. It's not unheard of in game dev to, surprise, share animations until they get the final ones done. Kotal and Liu sharing the same stance is likely a placeholder thing. Hell, how do you know it's not Liu who's sharing Kotal's animation instead of the other way around?
Best answer.

I just can’t believe how adamantly people are arguing this, on either side. It’s not that serious.
 

DDustiNN

MK11 Pocket Guide: Koming Soon to the App Store
That's totally Liu but in "Kahn" gear and I don't think it's a generic placeholder stance. Why would Kotal have one but no one else in the leaks have one? I've heard the screens had been around since January and everyone on that screen was selectable (minus blanks). This is from a build very far in and near completion. The screens even say Liu Kang on them (unless I'm mistaken and that particular shot isn't public?) You're not gonna have any generic stances or share exact same body models between characters this close to launch.

Plus there's been dialogue heard in game referring to Kitana as "Kitana Kahn". There's some story beats we're unfamiliar with for now but I'm sure it'll all make sense. Also, I'm gonna be stunned if Kotal's customization model isn't holding his weapon.
Nope we haven’t seen that pic yet. But now I’m convinced my original thought was right, and it is Liu Kang.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
How do we know the names of the new characters in the leaked roster? Because the other leak with Shang, Shinnok and Mileena looks legit, but only if we are sure the names in the roster pic aren't taken from it.
 

Jordy

Noob
have u noticed all the new chars have blue skin? BOOORING. anyway, I’m freaking rrrrraging I’m fuuuming :mad:. I’m tired about NRS taking RAIN as a joke. he deserves more consideration. They always put the same characters like Kano, liu kang... Booring!!! and they also had the courage to waste 3 slots putting the entire cage family leaving outside RAIN!?! cmon just put DRAHmin, Nitara or whoever esle instead of all the EarthRealm klassics... BOORING!!! Hope the leak isnt real. and this Kollector? who is he? one
more thing: just because this is mK don’t put all the names with K like Kronika, kollector, kitana, kintaro, kabal, kung lao, king jin, kano, kotal kahn, klkkkkkkkk
 

Raider

Warrior
have u noticed all the new chars have blue skin? BOOORING. anyway, I’m freaking rrrrraging I’m fuuuming :mad:. I’m tired about NRS taking RAIN as a joke. he deserves more consideration. They always put the same characters like Kano, liu kang... Booring!!! and they also had the courage to waste 3 slots putting the entire cage family leaving outside RAIN!?! cmon just put DRAHmin, Nitara or whoever esle instead of all the EarthRealm klassics... BOORING!!! Hope the leak isnt real. and this Kollector? who is he? one
more thing: just because this is mK don’t put all the names with K like Kronika, kollector, kitana, kintaro, kabal, kung lao, king jin, kano, kotal kahn, klkkkkkkkk
I don't know why i screamed at this post.
 

DDustiNN

MK11 Pocket Guide: Koming Soon to the App Store
have u noticed all the new chars have blue skin? BOOORING. anyway, I’m freaking rrrrraging I’m fuuuming :mad:. I’m tired about NRS taking RAIN as a joke. he deserves more consideration. They always put the same characters like Kano, liu kang... Booring!!! and they also had the courage to waste 3 slots putting the entire cage family leaving outside RAIN!?! cmon just put DRAHmin, Nitara or whoever esle instead of all the EarthRealm klassics... BOORING!!! Hope the leak isnt real. and this Kollector? who is he? one
more thing: just because this is mK don’t put all the names with K like Kronika, kollector, kitana, kintaro, kabal, kung lao, king jin, kano, kotal kahn, klkkkkkkkk
This might be the wrong game series for you. You should probably leave.
 
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He doesn't have a point. He was always going to buy the game, he said it right there.

Leaks only benefit impatient "fans", they do nothing for the scores of us who were willing to wait and damage the developers, marketers, and brands they are the supposed fans of.

And for what? Like he said, he's a competitive player, he already HAD to buy it. Oh woe is him that he had to wait 2 months to know which character to complain about not top tier.
Whoa wait a minute, no one forced you to look at the leak, so the leak shouldn't affect you whatsoever. Anyone that cries foul, begs for fairness or plays victim should only blame themselves. It's your own fault if your day revolves around scouring TYM, ERA, GF or the sub reddit. And a massive leak 7 weeks out for a FIGHTING game is not damaging any of it's brand or hype- so don't try that.

Anyone "waiting" should still be doing just that. So again, stop with the vigilante act. It's so hypocritical because 90% of those complainers checked out the leaks themselves.......
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Whoa wait a minute, no one forced you to look at the leak, so the leak shouldn't affect you whatsoever. Anyone that cries foul, begs for fairness or plays victim should only blame themselves. It's your own fault if your day revolves around scouring TYM, ERA, GF or the sub reddit. And a massive leak 7 weeks out for a FIGHTING game is not damaging any of it's brand or hype- so don't try that.

Anyone "waiting" should still be doing just that. So again, stop with the vigilante act. It's so hypocritical because 90% of those complainers checked out the leaks themselves.......
You live in a fantasy world where your wants are our needs. Good luck.
 

pure.Wasted

'ello baby, did you miss me?
I will say I hope they expand upon Sonya's character though. Always liked the character, but i wasn't too keen on the direction they took her in in MKX.
The problem is, other than "hard-ass workaholic," where do you take Sonya that makes her distinct from other S-F characters?

I think MKX's mistake re: Sonya was that we got a very one-sided picture of her. The story focused on her relationships (through Johnny and Cassie) instead of on her work. Of course a workaholic is going to look bad if all we see is the way they let others down in their personal life. None of the military victories S-F had were ever credited to her in-universe, and we had little reason to credit them to her, so most of our takeaway was just "Sonya's a bitch." Also "Sonya's really good at stomping Quan Chi's nuts."
 

Irishcyke

Mortal
Lol

Yeah, stop insulting people, unless they are called Cassie Cyrus, because if she gets a personal insult, you gonna like the message.

I wish this whole forum just turned into a crowd of Scythers.
I know I'm totally feeding into it but you sure do like to turn the topic of conversation to yourself.
 

Irishcyke

Mortal
Honestly, the best part of this roster leak is the conformation that Rain didn't make it. I mean, like most people i don't give two fucks about Rain, never have, but the people who've been screeching about him since the game was announced have ruined the character for me.

Also, man, people are really setting themselves up for huge disappointment RE Mileena and Shinnock being playable. People on Gamefaqs are already acting like the characters are 100 percent confirmed when it could have easily been fake news. It's going to be highly frustrsting for the logical among us to see these people blame NRS for them being gullible and jumping the gun when they find out they're not actually playable.