Yea, moves that leave you at advantage on block, then punishing when they retaliate to them.Frame traps, first off do you know what a frame trap is in the first place?
Its not just that, but using moves that are + on block to keep pressure by making our other moves easier to land. The best example is b.1 which to my knowledge is +17 on block, and cancelling it into almost anything or following with a d.1, 2, or the like.Yea, moves that leave you at advantage on block, then punishing when they retaliate to them.
I was just asking what moves you guys are using to get these traps.
I thought it was +12.Its not just that, but using moves that are + on block to keep pressure by making our other moves easier to land. The best example is b.1 which to my knowledge is +17 on block, and cancelling it into almost anything or following with a d.1, 2, or the like.
d.1 provides a few traps being its like +7 on hit or something
b23 catches a lot of dashes at the end of their animation. Superman for sure, Grundy and Lobo I think... I forget. There are more I'm sure. The 2 whiffs and the 3 catches them. If they dash you can cancel into a double punch to catch others if they are a bit farther than the 3. I need to practice more making the read because you have to input it as soon as the b2 comes out.It is +12, I forgot lol.
Also b.23 quit gives them time to dash away and be a dash ahead at all times.
I still don't like it, I know it works on supes because his backdash is kinda butt, but against people like arrow they get like half a screen of distance and start loading up shenanigans. I still prefer the b.1 ticks on block.b23 catches a lot of dashes at the end of their animation. Superman for sure, Grundy and Lobo I think... I forget. There are more I'm sure. The 2 whiffs and the 3 catches them. If they dash you can cancel into a double punch to catch others if they are a bit farther than the 3. I need to practice more making the read because you have to input it as soon as the b2 comes out.
That's how I do itBane doesn't need frametraps when he can just armour through.
He needs everything he can get when he ain't got shit beyond 1/2 screen.Bane doesn't need frametraps when he can just armour through.
They can, but usually they won't and you have time to chase them with a dash because of how much advantage you get out of it. Not to mention you can toss out a d.1 and catch a suprising amount of people out of their backdash.They can't back dash b1 but they can back dash b2? They are 1 frame difference. B1 is 17 and B2 is 18. I can't figure out how to test dashes in trainer.
B23 also catches jump outs.
Edit: And it came to me - I should record Bane and then play as the other guy... I'm a moron lol
btw did you test that grundy stuff?Green Arrow has to double dash to get out of b23. A single dash and he gets caught. His dash isn't what the problem is. It's his wakeup where he jumps back and shoots the arrow into the ground. I usually charge a lot on wake up vs Green Arrow.
Yea, I did. It works. I have yet to play a competent Grundy to test it on. I played some bad ones and they never even used WC or Armored trait on wake up, so yea...btw did you test that grundy stuff?
Gotta work that yomi game to make them choose an option, then abuse their response.Yea, I did. It works. I have yet to play a competent Grundy to test it on. I played some bad ones and they never even used WC or Armored trait on wake up, so yea...
It just sucks that you're basically stuck spamming b1 into double punch over and over on knockdowns. You can't command grab on block or hit. You can't link command grab on b112 if they block.
Actually I guess you can link Command grab off b11 if they block, but then again, you'll get grabbed if you do b11 and not b1 double punch.
I know. "invincible wake-up" my arse
He certainly does. When you're getting zoned to hell and then blown up at close range because the fastest string starter Bane has that hits mid is 12 frames, you'll start to really appreciate the +12 and +5/4 you get when you tag someone with a d1 or b23/b21.Bane doesn't need frametraps when he can just armour through.