Anti-Armor/Breakaway moves revealed on Kombat Kast

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1262840289045237763

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1263202057718099968

Aside from a pretty swaggy Fujin, a brief summary for those who didn't watch.

• One Anti-Armor/Breakaway move with different properties per character.
• New leveling augment system will add some life to the single player game (although a bit grindy I imagine)
• Briefly saw retrokade example of MK3 Church/Cathedral stage. (looks to be a pseudo-3rd projection of old stages, similar to what KI has)

Seems like a pretty good quality of life update overall (and we don't even know the other character specific adjustments yet either).

Also stream for Robocop and Sheeva this coming Monday!

 

Wait a min...

If the anti breakaway moves are these slow ass normals like scorpion's overhead....

That means he has to used it as soon as he launches you...

That means if he does anything besides that after launching you will be safe to breakaway...

Which means players should be able to visually confirm from the first hit of the juggle whether or not its safe to breakaway..

I mean...am I missing something here? Seems like all this change is going to do is make it so that players have to take one extra hit before they breakaway.

Like Scorpion does...

D2 crush blow...
I wait for first follow-up...
if anti-breakaway move...cool, his combo only did 20%
if regular string/normal...cool I will hold breakaway starting now because he can no longer hit me with his slow anti-breakaway move...he still did about 20%

Is this how its going to work?

 

Do people actually want a guaranteed meterless breakaway option select for every single hit confirm?

 

People complaining about breakaways when you can bait those. I want a Fatal Blows damage nerf.

 

Hope there will still be a button input change for breakaway.

 

Wait a min...

If the anti breakaway moves are these slow ass normals like scorpion's overhead....

That means he has to used it as soon as he launches you...

That means if he does anything besides that after launching you will be safe to breakaway...

Which means players should be able to visually confirm from the first hit of the juggle whether or not its safe to breakaway..

I mean...am I missing something here? Seems like all this change is going to do is make it so that players have to take one extra hit before they breakaway.

Like Scorpion does...

D2 crush blow...
I wait for first follow-up...
if anti-breakaway move...cool, his combo only did 20%
if regular string/normal...cool I will hold breakaway starting now because he can no longer hit me with his slow anti-breakaway move...he still did about 20%

Is this how its going to work?

They aren’t all normals though. Kitana and Shao get it off of specials.

16bit said Kitana’s is just square wave, not even amp’d.

Meaning you can hitconfirm during a juggle string and if you see them go into breakaway you can just cancel into the special.

 

They aren’t all normals though. Kitana and Shao get it off of specials.

16bit said Kitana’s is just square wave, not even amp’d.

Meaning you can hitconfirm during a juggle string and if you see them go into breakaway you can just cancel into the special.

Unless they slowed the fall speed, I dont think itll work that way bro.

 

Kitana being able to break armor with her Ass AND score a KB is pretty lit.

Theoretically if she uses her fan lift and expects the person to immediately breakaway on the first real hit, she can do some good damage

 

Unless they slowed the fall speed, I dont think itll work that way bro.

Idk man I’ve had enough hits absorbed by breakaway armor to know you can definitely tag someone with a special cancel in most combos.

 

What if you do your anti-breakaway move and they DON'T breakaway? Will it be like beforehand when people would prematurely end their combos with a D2, just with a different button this time?

 

People complaining about breakaways when you can bait those. I want a Fatal Blows damage nerf.

This is a huge fatal blow nerf.

 

I cant see scorpion or subs armor break moves being very useful against breakaway without significant changes. I cant really see any situations where scorps b3 would even be an option off his tele launcher.

 

All three of those armor breakers look pretty weak. They're only gonna work right after the launch. The problem is when people know how to break away properly and break in the middle of a string.

 

I cant see scorpion or subs armor break moves being very useful against breakaway without significant changes. I cant really see any situations where scorps b3 would even be an option off his tele launcher.

I tried it and i doesn't work unless they speed it up to connect after f3

 

I cant see scorpion or subs armor break moves being very useful against breakaway without significant changes. I cant really see any situations where scorps b3 would even be an option off his tele launcher.

Maybe not breakaway but doing a meaty sub kick can blow up both wakeup attacks and wakeup fatal blow, and even if it’s blocked it’s safe.

He gained a very strong oki tool.

I don’t think a character like Sub needs a good breakaway stopper, I hope they balance the move selection around whoukd actually benefit from it the most.

 

Maybe not breakaway but doing a meaty sub kick can blow up both wakeup attacks and wakeup fatal blow, and even if it’s blocked it’s safe.

He gained a very strong oki tool.

I don’t think a character like Sub needs a good breakaway stopper, I hope they balance the move selection around whoukd actually benefit from it the most.

Wake up attacks don't have armor.

 

From looking at Sub and Scorp, and what the dude above me said, I'm starting to think some of these armor breaking moves are less for preventing mid combo break aways and more for reading if your opponent is going to do an armored wake up or fatal blow. If they still lead to pop ups or KB's they could still be useful.

Not really a giant meta change tho i don't think, just another option vs wake ups.

 

Wake up attacks don't have armor.

Wakeup u3

 

Wakeup u3

Is invincible. It's different or else Spawn's anti armor special would work against it.

 

Lol why do so many people think wake up attacks have armor?

 

Wait a min...

If the anti breakaway moves are these slow ass normals like scorpion's overhead....

That means he has to used it as soon as he launches you...

That means if he does anything besides that after launching you will be safe to breakaway...

Which means players should be able to visually confirm from the first hit of the juggle whether or not its safe to breakaway..

I mean...am I missing something here? Seems like all this change is going to do is make it so that players have to take one extra hit before they breakaway.

Like Scorpion does...

D2 crush blow...
I wait for first follow-up...
if anti-breakaway move...cool, his combo only did 20%
if regular string/normal...cool I will hold breakaway starting now because he can no longer hit me with his slow anti-breakaway move...he still did about 20%

Is this how its going to work?

They mentioned in the stream they increased the start up of these moves. They are faster now.

 

All three of those armor breakers look pretty weak. They're only gonna work right after the launch. The problem is when people know how to break away properly and break in the middle of a string.

What they didn't tell us is that these are only designed to punish people who accidentally insta-break away...

 

I can't wait to see how armor breaks are gonna change the meta. Really looking forward to this expansion.

 

Someone smarten me up...
If characters have armour-breaking move now, then what does the attacker sacrifice in order to break-Breakaway? I understand the risk on the defender's part, but what is the mind-game/coin toss here?

Is it that the attacker has to drop a confirmed combo to read-and-stop the Breakaway?

 

Someone smarten me up...
If a character has an armour-breaking move now, then what does the attacker sacrifice in order to break-Breakaway? I understand the risk on the defender's part, but what is the mind-game/coin toss here?

There isn't. It'll be up to the defender to make sure their opponent doesn't have enough meter to use it, so neutral will be even more important because everyone is gonna use that shit the second people break away, as they should. You get opened up and combo'ed that's on you. Breakaway ain't gonna be a get out of jail free card anymore.

 

So Armour Break costs meter? I think I missed that on the Kast. Ok, makes more sense now. Thanks.