A Quick Reminder About 3rd Variations by Ed Boon

[Sugarwatermixlegit]

Thank god. There’s quite a few characters I like in this game but Frost is the only one I’ve found so far who has a variation that has most of the moves I like from her in it.

 

[cavemold]

im guessing with the new hidden brutalities those moves will be usable. like sub ice spikes one and shao khan spear

 

[cavemold]

War-Quoit Toss

B - F 4

Replaces Damned Bola. Throw a chakram.

please be in the varation idc if you stick me with those vial bombs.

 

[chr1sam]

Better hope the 3rd variation NRS chooses for your character isn't garbage.

I guarantee some character is going to get the equivalent of pre-patch Dirtbag as a 3rd variation.

 

[cavemold]

Better hope the 3rd variation NRS chooses for your character isn't garbage.

I guarantee some character is going to get the equivalent of pre-patch Dirtbag as a 3rd variation.

they cant make jades or kollector any worst

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

all 3rd variations will be moves not currently used slammed together

bet

 

[chr1sam]

all 3rd variations will be moves not currently used slammed together

bet

Probably. Which is nice because some of those moves really help/change the character but unfortunately, most characters are still going to have moves not usable in competitive still because lots of characters have 3-5 moves that are not used right now and some of those moves are 2 slot moves.

 

[SwiftEagle]

When Ed 'give Scorpion all the tools' Boon speaks...I don't listen.

 

[ChatterBox]

 

[cavemold]

Dragon gift
Low fireball
Dragon parry come on boon ahaha

 

[BecomingDeath13]

When Ed 'give Scorpion all the tools' Boon speaks...I don't listen.

He doesn't have misery blade though lol. He needs misery blade.

 

[GLoRToR]

Not interested in variations at all.
We need omnipotent normals brought down to reasonable and bad normals looked into.
There are a few one-button characters like Erron and Liu, and the rest.

They either need to give every character a one-button string that's competitive or nerf the fuck out of the invincible highmidlowerhead 9f advancing launcher bullshit.

 

[Trustful_Whale]

they've shown little interest in balancing customs, if the last patch was any indication

They aren't going to be doing all of the balancing in one go. They're following a pattern that's pretty easy to discern imo:

1. Make the abilities, balance as much as possible for the 2 variations and ship the game
2. Balance pass for the lesser used variations to try and bring them up to par with the first ones
3. Balance pass for the moves that will be going into variation 3
4. Balance pass for the first 2 variations again
5. Release variation 3
6. Balance pass for the remaining custom moves
7. Maybe talk about a special move quick pick UI for character select
8. Maybe release customs to ranked

And I would say this is an abridged version.

 

[Agilaz]

I think a third variation will go a long way toward seeing all of a character's defining moves in play.

Honestly, I was super pro-customs before release but I dread the idea of it now as it would turn every character insanely good. Also I'm fairly sure it would lead to less variety instead of more, as people would just go with the strongest setup after a while.

For Shang, I can see them doing a ninja variation (obvious) or more of a setup variation with fire tornado and debuffs. Sounds sick tbh. Really curious!

 

[kantboy-2]

Why are normal moves and combo paths considered 'special moves' to begin with?

Integrate those into the standard move sets and balance them accordingly.

Then you can do a 3rd variation.

 

[Nickolaidas]

"Custom variations pls" is TYM's version of twitter's "WHERE'S MILEENA"
But seriously though, hyped for this. Wouldn't expect it all that soon though.

No, man, you - you're not doing it right. It's more like, "WHERESMILLEENAAAAA!!?!?!??!"

 

[GLoRToR]

They aren't going to be doing all of the balancing in one go. They're following a pattern that's pretty easy to discern imo:

1. Make the abilities, balance as much as possible for the 2 variations and ship the game
2. Balance pass over the lesser used variations to try and bring them up to par with the first ones
3. Balance pass for the moves that will be going into variation 3
4. Balance pass for the first 2 variations again
5. Release variation 3
6. Balance pass for the remaining custom moves
7. Maybe talk about a special move quick pick UI for character select
8. Maybe release customs to ranked

And I would say this is an abridged version.

This sounds reasonable to me actually

 

[dribirut]

They aren't going to be doing all of the balancing in one go. They're following a pattern that's pretty easy to discern imo:

1. Make the abilities, balance as much as possible for the 2 variations and ship the game
2. Balance pass over the lesser used variations to try and bring them up to par with the first ones
3. Balance pass for the moves that will be going into variation 3
4. Balance pass for the first 2 variations again
5. Release variation 3
6. Balance pass for the remaining custom moves
7. Maybe talk about a special move quick pick UI for character select
8. Maybe release customs to ranked

And I would say this is an abridged version.

The problem is that the last step you mentioned that could possibly take place in a year should have been in effect since release.

 

[Sanjo]

The problem is that the last step you mentioned that could possibly take place in a year should have been in effect since release.

Kustom in ranked is a terrible idea IMO. It would ruin the tournament scene.

 

[Evil Canadian]

You’re still gonna play it so be quiet.

N...n....no i wont, ill just play somethinhg else and devote my energy to something other than complaining about MK, u will see u will fucken see!!! i can do it!!!!

 

[Lex Luthor II]

This saddens me, as it most certainly does mean the idea of kustom variations being allowed in ranked/tourneys is nowhere on their radar and may likely never happen.

 

[grandabx]

Kustom in ranked is a terrible idea IMO. It would ruin the tournament scene.

This game won't have a tournament scene in the near future.

They spent all of those months telling people they'll be able to play how THEY want, but didn't tell them it would be only be for casual play. Now all anyone can do is play "how" the COMPANY wants them to play. It's blatant false advertisement. No excuses.

They can't even get two company-choice variations working even AFTER that balance patch. Months after release.

MK11 = stagnation nation

Injustice 2 participation numbers coming right up! Brought to you by scared casuals and short attention spans!

 

[NothingPersonal]

Nice, I'm really interested to see Shao Kahn's 3rd variation and the future balance for the rest.
On a side note, after the last patch it seems NRS is focusing on balancing variations and not moves. I have a feeling custom variatipn tournament mode will never come. It's a shame, but we'll see in the future.

 

[theotherguy]

They spent all of those months telling people they'll be able to play how THEY want, but didn't tell them it would be only be for casual play. Now all anyone can do is play "how" the COMPANY wants them to play. It's blatant false advertisement. No excuses.

The bulk of the buyers of the game are casuals, so there's a good chance they're playing exactly what they were told.

 

[MadPropz101]

I mean I don't see how well this can turn out. Current tournament variations already have the most important moves, and I assume that the 3rd variation will consist of different moves entirely so I don't see how good that can be.