Tech - Hellfire 214 - Teleport/Cancel Option Select for Armoured Reversals.

[JTB123]

Been busy in the lab this past couple of days and put this together. The videos explain it all but I'm curious to see what you guys think.

I think in the long run this could be really good for Scorpion and Hellfire in particular. We can already blow up every back dash in the game out of 214 pressure and now a good amount of the amoured reversals too.

Below the videos is a list of all the potential punishers, I have put the slowest move that can punish a move out of a teleport cancel so if you see "cancel into S2" then that means Scorps S2 was the slowest move I could get to punish the reversal after doing the cancel on the teleport.

The order of moves in the list corresponds to the order that they appear in the video and the cast is ordered alphabetically in the part 2 video. Part 1 explains what the setup / option select is and how it's done.

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Alien

Tail slam - ex tele
Tail grab - ex tele
Survival - cancel into S3 or ex tele
Tarkatan fury - ex tele or cancel into S1
Chop chop - ex tele or cancel into S2
Spinner - cancel into S2 or ex tele

Bo Rai Cho

Monkey flips - cancel into spear
Drunk-Upuncture - ex tele or cancel into F4
Snag n Bump - ex tele or cancel into S2
Kane Strike - cancel into dash F4
Fist Flurry - cancel into S2 or ex tele
Bump n dump - cancel into F3
Spinning hammers - lvl 1 and 2 = cancel into F4 lvl 3 = cancel into dash JI2

Cassie

Diving glow kick - tele or ex tele
Testi-kill - ex tele or cancel into S2
Nut buster - ex tele or cancel into S2
Haymaker - ex tele or cancel into S2
Bone braker - ex tele or cancel into S2

Cyrax

Cyrax initiative - ex tele or cancel into S2

D'Vorah

Ovipositor rush - ex tele or cancel into F4

Ermac

Soul blast - ex tele or cancel into S2

Erron Black
Slide shots - cancel into ex tele
Quick sand - ex tele or cancel into S2
Trick shot - ex tele or cancel into F4
Tarkatan infection - ex tele or cancel into S2
Sand throw - ex tele or cancel into S3

Ferra Torr

Bone crusher - cancel into JI2
Colossal crush - ex tele or cancel into S2
Charge n Smash - cancel into spear
Torr smash - cancel into F4
Tuck n trample - ex tele or cancel into spear
Gut ripper - ex tele or cancel into S2

Goro

Krush - ex tele or normal tele
Fist flurry - cancel into spear or dash into S2
Shokan slam - inconsistent when testing. Would sometimes catch teleport, can be punished with ex tele or cancel into S2 though.
Dragon torch - ex tele or cancel into cross over JI2
Chest charge - ex tele or cancel into S3
Dragon spin - cancel into JI2
Piercing fang - ex tele

Jacqui

Bionic blast - ex tele or cancel into S2
Gauntlet flurry - ex tele or cancel into S2

Jason

Spine shatter - ex tele
Choke slam - ex tele
Temple slam - ex tele or cancel into S3
X ray - jump in2 or spear
Shoulder charge - ex tele
Bloodlust - ex tele
Machete throw - ex tele or S3
Hack n slash - ji2 or spear
Blood mist - ex tele

Jax

Major muscle - cancel into S2
EX gotcha - ex tele
X ray - ex tele
Quad grapple - ex tele or cancel into S2


Johnny Cage


Ultra flipkick - tele or ex tele
Nutcracker - ex tele or cancel into S2

Kano

Uprise ball - inconsistent results, sometimes would whiff sometimes would knock Scorpion out of teleport on start up
Lacerate - cancel into walk forward F3
Rib breaker - ex tele or cancel into S2
Power bomb - ex tele or cancel into S2
Stangle - ex tele
Eye blast - ex tele

Kenshi

Sword dance - cancel into F3
Blade-nado - ex tele or cancel into F4
Tele-suspend - ex tele or cancel into F4
Spirit charge - ex tele
Karma eruption - ex tele or cancel into S2
Sickle strike - ex tele or cancel into S2
Soul charge - ex tele or cancel into S2
Demonic slice - ex tele or cancel into S2 or 3

Kitana

Rising blades - ex tele or cancel into F4
Staff smash - ex tele or cancel into S3

Kotal Kahn


Sunburn - ex tele or cancel into S2
Moon god choke - ex tele or cancel into S2
Buzz saw - ex tele or cancel into F4
Overhead sword smash - ex tele or cancel into F4
Sword takedown - ex tele or cancel into F4
Sword quake - ex tele or cancel into F4

Kung Jin

Fly kick - cancel into ex tele
Cartwheel smash - tele or ex tele
Staff infection - ex tele or cancel into S2
Rising strike - cancel into ex tele
Bo strike - ex tele or cancel into 114
Bo spin - ex tele or cancel into F4
Low bo spin - ex tele or cancel into F4

Kung Lao

EX Tele - ex tele or f3
X ray - spear or run in 114

Leatherface

Spin sanity - cancel into spear or JI2
Psycho slasher - ex tele or cancel into F4
Blood n Guts - ex tele or cancel into S2
Gut gash - ex tele or cancel into S2
Slaughter house - cancel into F3 or walk forward S2
Mallet slam - cancel into F3

Liu Kang

Bicycle flurry - cancel into dash JI2 or spear
Dragons wrath - ex tele
Windmill flurry - cancel into JI2 or spear

Mileena

Flip n Roll - ex tele or cancel into ex tele
Let us dance - cancel into S2

Predator

What the hell - ex tele or cancel into S2
Dread launch - ex tele

Quan Chi

Skull krusher - cancel into F4
Portal slam - ex tele or cancel into S3

Raiden

Thunder fly - cancel into ex tele or spear
Shocker - ex tele or cancel into S2
Thunder strike - cancel into spear or dash into S2
Shock therapy - cancel away into ex tele

Reptile

Klaw bounce - cancel into F4
Klaw slash - ex tele or cancel into S2

Scorpion

Takeout - ex tele or cancel into F4

Sektor

Sektor initiative - ex tele or cancel into cross over JI1
Flame thrower (sek) - ex tele, inconsistent. Will sometimes lost to flames behind sektor.

Shinnok

Krushing shoulder - ex tele or cancel into S2
The devils hand - ex tele or cancel into S2
Scepter launch - ex tele or cancel into S2

Sonya

Leg slam - ex tele or cancel into S3

Sub Zero


Frost bomb - ex tele
Crushing hammer - ex tele

Takeda

Whip flurry - ex tele or cancel into F4
Whip flip - ex tele or cancel into S2

Tanya

Split flip kick - cancel into F4

Tremor

Stone slam (straight) - cancel into F3
Stone slam (overhead) - cancel into S3
Stone slam (upwards) - ex tele
Rock blast (straight, low and high) - ex tele
Rock bottom - ex tele or cancel into F4

 

[Osagri]

YT link? Ty

 

[JTB123]

YT link? Ty

Are the videos in the OP not working?

 

[Invincible Salads]

What option were u talking about that blows up every backdash?

 

[JTB123]

What option were u talking about that blows up every backdash?

His F3, either F3 or run into F3. Between them you can beat all backdashes out of 214. So if they back dash the 4 you can do 21, then go into F3 or run F3 to catch them.

 

[STRYKIE]

I actually did know about this but it does seem like quite a bizarre side-effect of the adjustments to 214 and thus unintentional, so I was worried about letting the cat out of the bag myself lol...

I will however confess I did not know it worked against THAT many reversals, so good work.

One more thing, can we talk about how Sky Drop beats this but not Warlock's Portal Scoop?

 

[Eddy Wang]

Safe teleport cancels, Paulo's gonna nerf it.

 

[Osagri]

Are the videos in the OP not working?

Nokia Lumia. Nuff said

 

[JTB123]

I actually did know about this but it does seem like quite a bizarre side-effect of the adjustments to 214 and thus unintentional, so I was worried about letting the cat out of the bag myself lol...

I will however confess I did not know it worked against THAT many reversals, so good work.

One more thing, can we talk about how Sky Drop beats this but not Warlock's Portal Scoop?

Sky drop confirmed too good. Quan players need to apologise

 

[MsMiharo]

I actually did know about this but it does seem like quite a bizarre side-effect of the adjustments to 214 and thus unintentional, so I was worried about letting the cat out of the bag myself lol...

I will however confess I did not know it worked against THAT many reversals, so good work.

One more thing, can we talk about how Sky Drop beats this but not Warlock's Portal Scoop?

Nerf Sky drop IMO

 

[Matix218]

This is a good find. Thanks for posting. This will definitely blow up people who are always trying to armor the gap so it will make them more likely to block the whole string once they have seen that you can blow up their armor and that will of course open up more off your hellfire pressure. Very cool

 

[Ze Dingo]

Wow, thanks for not tagging me @JTB123 .

I cri errtiem.

 

[IrishMantis]

JTB please narrate my life please.

Also very informative and well layer out video

 

[big j gleez]

Great stuff man.

 

[Mitsuownes]

Thanks for the tag.

I never knew you could cancel your teleport safely. This is very good stuff!

 

[JTB123]

Wow, thanks for not tagging me @JTB123 .

I cri errtiem.

I knew there was one more player I was forgetting to tag My tagging game is free.

 

[Airvidal]

Too good, why does he have that option select

Good work man, nicely put together!

 

[Ze Dingo]

I knew there was one more player I was forgetting to tag My tagging game is free.

Your tech, however, is not.

I knew about this, I think I mentioned it in passing in the Scorpion discussion thread, but I didn't know what you could do with it, so good stuff, JTB.

Can you also see what reversals you can FBRC~backdash out of?

 

[JINAMOUNAINAI]

I only watched part 1 so far so if included dont mind me but vs jax and lao you can go straight to 21tp away, jax both oh and regular dash punch can be whiffed punished after that, lao you can just spear him in (this is if you dont want to deal with guessing if jax will do oh punch or dash punch)
Similar option works on alien as well

 

[Invincible Salads]

His F3, either F3 or run into F3. Between them you can beat all backdashes out of 214. So if they back dash the 4 you can do 21, then go into F3 or run F3 to catch them.

in that case why not just make a read then with flame aura? that works pretty good too

 

[JINAMOUNAINAI]

in that case why not just make a read then with flame aura? that works pretty good too

Ex spear if you already on fire

 

[Osagri]

So...yt link ?

 

[MsMiharo]

So...yt link ?

 

[MsMiharo]

Ugh that didn't work.try going through the channel https://m.youtube.com/user/0JoeButton0?

 

[omooba]

Safe teleport cancels, Paulo's gonna nerf it.

probably doesn't need to but he will